How i increase the product number per day?

Pachirisu · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 6:50 am

It has someway to incrase the product number per day? I want to increase the Alpaca Wool to give to Oracle e-e" I'm going to live in bluebell for somedays to fabricate more Alpaca Wool for Oracle.

Akihiko · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 6:54 am

Not to my knowledge there was a similar thread a few days ago and the answer then was No you can get produce once a day. Animal treats don't work and neither does winning festivals.

Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 7:00 am

Wrong

Sanokitty wrote:I have the Japanese version of the game and according to an online guide I use, you'll have to give a certain combination of various kinds of treats/crackers to get your livestock to increase its product output.

So far, I have only tested it on 1 normal white chicken, and after 31 treats in a combination of 2 regular treats, 15 vegetable treats, 4 wheat treats and 10 fish treats (I can't be sure of the corresponding names in the localized version, sorry), I got my chicken producing 2 eggs a day instead of 1.

This is the link to the chart in the Japanese guide:
http://wiki.gamepit.jp/futago/index.php?牧畜 (please copy and paste link, including the kanji characters because I think the forum doesn't recognize them as part of the link and will end up truncated automatically)

For chickens, cows and sheep, both the normal and special variety, the combination of treats to increase the product output by another step is the same, up to a maximum of 5.

ie. To get my chicken to increase its product from 2 to 3 eggs a day would require another round of 31 crackers in the above stated combination, and so forth. I'm working on that right now to see that is indeed the case.

The order in which the treats are given is not important.
The number of treats given will not be reset until a step in the increase of output is achieved. (This needs verification, I don't understand this line in the guide fully, sorry)
Although I only started feeding treats to an adult chicken, the guide claims the process can be started even when the animals are not yet fully mature; the treats fed since will count.

Chickens: 2 regular treats, 15 vegetable treats, 4 wheat treats and 10 fish treats. Total: 31
Silkie Chickens: 1 regular treat, 14 vegetable treats, 2 wheat treats and 14 fish treats. Total: 31
Cows: 7 regular treats, 8 vegetable treats, 15 wheat treats, and 1 fish treat. Total: 31
Jersey Cows: 4 normal treats, 6 vegetable treats, 20 wheat treats and 1 fish treat. Total: 31
Sheep: 2 regular treats, 12 vegetable treats, 12 wheat treats and 5 fish treats. Total: 31
Suffolk Sheep: 1 regular treat, 15 vegetable treats, 9 wheat treats and 6 fish treats. Total: 31

Alpacas, both white and brown, require a different number and combination depending on the number of products per round.

To increase from 1 to 2 wool: 0 regular treats, 15 vegetable treats, 15 wheat treats and 15 fish treats. Total: 45

To increase from 2 to 3 wool: 0 regular treats, 30 vegetable treats, 20 wheat treats and 20 fish treats. Total: 70

To increase from 3 to 4 wool: 0 regular treats, 45 vegetable treats, 25 wheat treats and 25 fish treats. Total: 95

To increase from 4 to 5 wool: 0 regular treats, 60 vegetable treats, 30 wheat treats and 30 fish treats. Total: 120

I haven't tested out the information given in the guide beyond what I already have with my chicken. I am currently working on increasing the output of my other animals, and will report back if I have any other further findings. It will take a lot of money and time, especially in the case of alpacas, and I don't even know if alpacas will live long enough to warrant this kind of investment.

My Japanese is only slightly above rudimentary, but I think I should have understood most parts correctly. Feel free to correct any misinformation provided, if you read more Japanese than I do and understand the Japanese guide differently.

From this thread. http://fogu.com/hmforum/viewtopic.php?f ... 1&start=15

DotCom · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 7:43 am

Thanks for the information, but damn is that a lot of treats...

norelationstojfk · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 7:54 am

I've been wanting to know that forever! Thanks! But...do you really have to feed them that combination of treats? Or can't you just feed them 31 of one treat?

Turnipcurry · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 8:03 am

can you start increasing process when you have a baby animal to save time because animals don't live forever and can someone see if this thing is actually yeild a better profit because that gonna cost a ton of money for all the treats and do treats increase your animals happiness if it does I guess it worth the go

Lucaspontes · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 8:11 am

Thanks sooo much for that! Now let the calcs start! I'm gonna go crazy with this...
The problem is, on the treats description it says "don't give them too much". Giving lots of treats is really bad or it's just a misleading description? (like the owl feed one)

Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 8:41 am

I will wait until Cher add some information about this... This thing needs 100% accurate information or it can be a great³ money waste...

HummingGillz · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 8:45 am

Ryu_FH wrote:I will wait until Cher add some information about this... This thing needs 100% accurate information or it can be a great³ money waste...

This. I was wondering this myself, but it does add to the evidence that giving animals treats DOES increase productivity. I have started to give my animals treats, but I'll hold off until this information can be confirmed.

And like another user asked, can we give an animal one kind of treat only for 31 consecutive days? (1 treat per day)

Fuinur · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 9:51 am

Alpacas, both white and brown, require a different number and combination depending on the number of products per round.

To increase from 1 to 2 wool: 0 regular treats, 15 vegetable treats, 15 wheat treats and 15 fish treats. Total: 45

To increase from 2 to 3 wool: 0 regular treats, 30 vegetable treats, 20 wheat treats and 20 fish treats. Total: 70

To increase from 3 to 4 wool: 0 regular treats, 45 vegetable treats, 25 wheat treats and 25 fish treats. Total: 95

To increase from 4 to 5 wool: 0 regular treats, 60 vegetable treats, 30 wheat treats and 30 fish treats. Total: 120

I can confirm those values via testing some ram viewing tools
also those values are the totals needed to increase production meaning you only need 60 vegetable 30 grain 30 nutra treats given to have a 5 production value which is the max(i tried setting the values to 99 and it was still 5 produced)

Lucaspontes · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 9:56 am

Fuinur wrote:
Alpacas, both white and brown, require a different number and combination depending on the number of products per round.

To increase from 1 to 2 wool: 0 regular treats, 15 vegetable treats, 15 wheat treats and 15 fish treats. Total: 45

To increase from 2 to 3 wool: 0 regular treats, 30 vegetable treats, 20 wheat treats and 20 fish treats. Total: 70

To increase from 3 to 4 wool: 0 regular treats, 45 vegetable treats, 25 wheat treats and 25 fish treats. Total: 95

To increase from 4 to 5 wool: 0 regular treats, 60 vegetable treats, 30 wheat treats and 30 fish treats. Total: 120
I can confirm those values via testing some ram viewing tools
also those values are the totals needed to increase production meaning you only need 60 vegetable 30 grain 30 nutra treats given to have a 5 production value which is the max(i tried setting the values to 99 and it was still 5 produced)

Ah, that's good. I thought I needed to give 330 treats to get them to produce 5 wool

Anyway, the most profitable animal would be cow, since they are the cheapest to buy the treats and they give the higher profit per day.

HM_Nalene · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 10:08 am

Turnipcurry wrote:can you start increasing process when you have a baby animal to save time because animals don't live forever and can someone see if this thing is actually yeild a better profit because that gonna cost a ton of money for all the treats and do treats increase your animals happiness if it does I guess it worth the go

In the translation it says that you should be able to give it to the baby and it will process, but, I can't confirm this.

Fuinur · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 10:20 am

HM_Nalene wrote:
Turnipcurry wrote:can you start increasing process when you have a baby animal to save time because animals don't live forever and can someone see if this thing is actually yeild a better profit because that gonna cost a ton of money for all the treats and do treats increase your animals happiness if it does I guess it worth the go
In the translation it says that you should be able to give it to the baby and it will process, but, I can't confirm this.

Thats correct it counts when you give them treats as babys

YouTube · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 10:22 am

Ryu_FH wrote:I will wait until Cher add some information about this... This thing needs 100% accurate information or it can be a great³ money waste...

It is accurate. There's even a chart in one of my books that lists the number of treats necessary for each of the animals' production level.

Jazzrat · Post Posted: Oct 02, 2011 10:25 am

HummingGillz wrote:
Ryu_FH wrote:I will wait until Cher add some information about this... This thing needs 100% accurate information or it can be a great³ money waste...
This. I was wondering this myself, but it does add to the evidence that giving animals treats DOES increase productivity. I have started to give my animals treats, but I'll hold off until this information can be confirmed.

And like another user asked, can we give an animal one kind of treat only for 31 consecutive days? (1 treat per day)

Only one treat allowed per day, the game will stop u if u tried to feed more than once a day
Gonna start treating my jersey cow daily and see how it goes.