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Is anyone else here seeing something weird with the reception for newer Sonic games? Since a couple of them were bad, so many haters are just choosing to believe that the rest of them are junk too. I think it's strange. I mean, I know that some were terrible overall such as Sonic 06 (except for the storyline. It was pretty intense) , but when Sonic and the Black Knight was annouced, I immediately saw people saying how unrealistic it was. Come on. Sonic is of the adventure and fantasy genre. In his series, Sonic can be whatever they throw at him, just like how Mario is all of a sudden a soccer player (No offense to Mario fans; I am a fan too!)

Ahah, sorry for my nerdrage. I just really wanted to get this out, and I really wanted to hear people's opinions. Keep in mind, i'm not flaming or complaining about the critic's opinion, but rather, I'm talking about the people who play the games or who just see it and choose to comment on it.

Nagi-chan wrote:Is anyone else here seeing something weird with the reception for newer Sonic games? Since a couple of them were bad, so many haters are just choosing to believe that the rest of them are junk too. I think it's strange. I mean, I know that some were terrible overall such as Sonic 06 (except for the storyline. It was pretty intense) , but when Sonic and the Black Knight was annouced, I immediately saw people saying how unrealistic it was. Come on. Sonic is of the adventure and fantasy genre. In his series, Sonic can be whatever they throw at him, just like how Mario is all of a sudden a soccer player (No offense to Mario fans; I am a fan too!)

Ahah, sorry for my nerdrage. I just really wanted to get this out, and I really wanted to hear people's opinions. Keep in mind, i'm not flaming or complaining about the critic's opinion, but rather, I'm talking about the people who play the games or who just see it and choose to comment on it.

ITS ABOUT A SUPER FAST BLUE HEDGEHOG. OF COURSE ITS UNREALISTIC. XD

I love Sonic. D: All the games are good in my opinion, some better then others of course but...

I guess alot of people might dislike it because of the fact that every Sonic game is pretty much the same as the last one. I don't mind it though D:

I agree with Heart, I think people are sick of seeing the same thing a bit. I also think that they got a bit upset that it even fell into a slump and thus they are making the new game seem bad before they even play it so they won't disappoint themselves,that or they want to kill the Sonic franchise. Who knows?

I personally liked the newer games I got my hands on but not as much as some of the older ones.

I agree that the constant running got repetitive, but it wouldn't be a Sonic game without running o_O

I was pretty surprised with what the critics said though. They preferred having Sonic Unleashed filled with repetitive running rather than the brawlier (is that even a word?) Werehog stages. They also remarked that those stages contributed to the lower ratings.

Ahh... I really hope that Sonic and the Black Knight will be good, and not so bashed and flamed.

I agree with you Xeronia, the classic games are always going to be fun. I think they should bring back the Green Hill Zone like they did in SA2B. I have to admit though, the bosses in the 3D Sonic games are always epic. They never cease to surprise me. Perfect Chaos, the FinalHazard, Metal Overlord, Devil Doom, those guys are scary epic!

as a fan of sonic since the beginning, i have to say that newer sonic really truely are not up to par with what we had in the past.


barring non-platforming mario games (mario sports, mario party, etc.), that series made the transition from 2D to 3D perfectly and did not lose any of the elements that made the series good in the first place. sonic, on the other hand, did not do very well. as soon as the series hit the dreamcast, it started to go downhill, and while the dreamcast versions were enjoyable, they marked the beginning of a clear loss in quality that seems to get progressively worse over the years. they really need to take a cue from sucessful platformers (like my example of mario) and really rework the series.


that DS version that was 2D and meant to be like an old-school game was a huge dissapointment because it had so much promise but really failed to deliver. i have played a couple of other newer ones (nothing really comes to mind in regards to the titles), but they have all sucked so horribly that i doubt i will ever pick up another sonic game again, which is really sad, since i loved the series back in the day and still love the older games in the series (and not for nostalgia - don't bother accusing me of that).

Nina's right. I used to be a huge fan of Sonic but the games lately have been a bit of a disappointment. The earlier games I really did love but lately... well Nina said it for you.

But then I'm very picky so don't rely on my opinion o_O

Sonic adventure 2 battle was the last good one, me and my friends still play it. what pissed me off most, was even though everyone loved the chaos, THEY GOT RID OF THEM! Hell, the chao garden was the best part! Im heard a new game will have a chao garden, ima buy it if only for that. CHaos were so much fun.

What I think sonic should do, is make a game where you control everything. liek Shadow the hedgehog, but without the predetermined routes. Let them choose what adventure, who to believe, and have multiple things possible. the new games are to stiff, non-flexible.
*Plz dont critique this post, its F'ing 4:45 in the morning here, and im still up*

Well, I've finally got an account, so I'm not Nagi-chan anymore.

On Topic: Ahh, the older games were truly classics. I've still got hope for the newer games, though. Sooner or later, there is going to be a game that will wow us. I just didn't like the flaming of games that didn't even come out yet, and the flaming of games that the person may not have even played yet.

I still got hope though! WHO'S WITH ME?! xD Ahahaha...

ddddom, don't worry, I'm pretty sleepy myself. We won't critique your post!

I agree, the Chao garden was definitely one of the game's best features. No wonder SA2B was on the list for the most games sold for Gamecube (They were twelfth, just behind Paper Mario, the Thousand Year Door).

Hiyorin wrote:Well, I've finally got an account, so I'm not Nagi-chan anymore.

On Topic: Ahh, the older games were truly classics. I've still got hope for the newer games, though. Sooner or later, there is going to be a game that will wow us. I just didn't like the flaming of games that didn't even come out yet, and the flaming of games that the person may not have even played yet.

I still got hope though! WHO'S WITH ME?! xD Ahahaha...

ddddom, don't worry, I'm pretty sleepy myself. We won't critique your post!

I agree, the Chao garden was definitely one of the game's best features. No wonder SA2B was on the list for the most games sold for Gamecube (They were twelfth, just behind Paper Mario, the Thousand Year Door).

Thousand Year Door was the best out of the PM series too, in my personal opinion.

On topic.. I'm playing Sonic Unleashed, and well... The controls are absolutely terrible compared to some of the old games in my opinion. Oh, and Chao were a form of epic win like no other. O:

The Chao garden became my favorite part of the game D: After awhile I would only play actual levels just to get stuff for my chao or to get rings to buy things for them >.<

Main thing I don't understand:

What's the difference between the old and new games?

I don't get this..."quality change" people keep talking about.

garnet_goodie wrote:Main thing I don't understand:

What's the difference between the old and new games?

I don't get this..."quality change" people keep talking about.

To me the "quality change" is with the controls and stoyline/characters. In my opinion they added to many people to the cast now that don't have a good storyline to back them up making them rather pointless. (Team Chaotix I am talking about you.) Also some really horrid voice acting at least in my opinion.

I also agree that I miss the chao system, the things where so dang cute.

Also it may just be me but the soundtracks now are bad, sonic was one of the better games when it came to the music at least to me. (I remember listening to the soundtrack forever on Sega CD for one of the games when I was a kid.)

I think it's just pickiness. Just because there's one game that you really like doesn't mean that all the other games are supposed to be the exact same thing.

Sonic Adventure 2 is my favorite, with the Chao Garden and cool plot.

But I've just played Sonic Unleashed (got it for Christmas) and I'm actually liking it. I didn't like that Secret Rings one because of the bad controls, not because IT WASN'T LIKE OLD SKOOL.

Yeah, I think it's pickiness.

Sometimes it's just people being picky, other times there's good reason. There are good reasons not to like Sonic2006 or Shadow the Hedgehog. But even when the game focuses purely on speed and makes you feel like you're moving ridiculously fast, people still find things to gripe about (Secret Rings comes to mind)

I got the Wii version of Unleashed for Christmas, and it's what I expected. The daytime levels are fantastic, but I'm not sure about the night levels. At first I played the game using a Gamecube controller, and the controls for the werehog segments were terrible. (Shoulder buttons to attack? Are you kidding me?) But when I switched to the Wii Remote and Nunchuck, I liked the nighttime stages better as at least they did a good job of mapping the proper motions.