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Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 8:17 pm
by Poppyseed
I suppose it's really just the way you look at the character. I don't give it much thought, but that's one way to see it~

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 8:18 pm
by Fuji
sadeofraine wrote:I'll have it be known that when I took a nap today, I had a dream where Neil and Rio were 'getting it on'. No actual penetration, though. Seeing as how I like Neil but not as much as some as the others, I blame this thread.
/Heads up to you HM fanfic writers out - Neil is rather shy, hesitant, and emotional when it comes to « Chicken Hugging », whereas Rio's an enthusiastic screamer pervert.


First Harvest Moon related dream, btw.
/dammit, Soseki, you were supposed to be first.



Anyway, I can't wait for more Soseki dialogue. And I want bachelorette dialogue, too. The girls look really good this time around<3
Sounds like my dream last night, only replace Neil with Sengoku. :heart:
HM is so much more fun when you're older. I didn't enjoy it nearly as much as a child. /shot

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 8:23 pm
by Sama
It's not love dialogue, but...

Allen at red heart, not dating:
Spoiler:
You're pretty interesting, Sam. I know we'll be friends for the rest of our lives, and I'm grateful for it.
*GASP* He said he was, not I better be! It only took almost a year.... v.v

Edit: Also what Iroha says at the beekeeping fest. I swear, she says the most entertaining things:
Spoiler:
I have heard that plants and animals produce more when they listen to music. I wonder if it is true. If it is, perhaps the bees will produce more honey if we let them listen to music. I have to wonder, do bees have ears at all? I do not know much about insects.
And Rod:
Spoiler:
When I was little, I was stung by a bee... I wonder if it's true that you'll die if the same bee stings you twice? If that's true, then I'll never be a beekeeper as long as I live!
As well as Neil:
Spoiler:
I don't normally eat sweet things, but I make an exception for honey. Huh? No way! I never said I ate it raw! I'm not a bear! I add it when I'm cooking, stuff like that. It adds body and thickness and improves flavor. Are you surprised? I cook sometimes. You're being rude.
The characters always have entertaining things to say. xD And bear Neil has become a must draw!

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 10:06 pm
by Ducki
I remember when people used to say that Allen didn't blush on his blushing face, but when you look closer he actually is >.>
Just thought I might say that, cause I have no new dialogue that I want to share and I haven't unlocked Sanjay in my other file yet T^T
I WANT SOME SANJAY! Dx

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 10:41 pm
by Kisari
Tsuruka wrote: It might help to know that Allen is as hard on himself as he is on you.

Honestly though, I agree with a lot of what has been said about Allen because some of the things he says are kind of abusive and it worries me a little that I like him. I would never go after a guy like that in real life and I'm not even 100% sure why I am in a game. I guess there are a lot of little reasons. Since it's a video game, I don't take his lines seriously, so a lot of them make me laugh because they are so ridiculous. As much as I wouldn't like to admit it, a little of the attraction is purely physical. (I have such a glasses fetish.) But I think one of the main reasons I don't mind it is my own personal headcanon that a lot of the lines are meant in a teasing way. Some people just have a sense of humor that involves playful insults. I personally inherited it from my mom. With people that I'm close to I'll often say "mean" things. I have one friend who I often drive to church and a small group I'm in and it's become a running gag that whenever I get to her house when I'm dropping her off I say, "Get out." I'm the type of person who can joke with a straight face, but all my friends know that I'm not being serious and they laugh about it rather than getting their feelings hurt. My mom and dad do the same type of playful poking at each other even though they really love each other. Now, obviously, you can only do this with someone who thinks it's funny as well or it's just mean, which is why I only do it around people I'm friends with or comfortable around. Also, I think Allen probably means what he is saying a bit more than I do, but I imagine my character playfully teasing Allen as well and I think that conclusion is supported by a few things he says. That doesn't mean I like everything Allen says (I was a little pissed when he made me do the dishes), but I like the rest of the stuff he says enough to make up for it.

In real life you can generally tell when someone is taking part in mutual teasing versus just being mean, but when it's only text and there's no voice acting or anything, a game is a lot more open to interpretation, especially when we don't really see the main character's reaction to things. I don't mean that you have to agree with my interpretation or that you should just assume that someone in real life is just being playful. You have to be really careful in real life because it has far more reaching consequences than a game and you can't just reset if you decide you don't like the guy you went with after all. However, I do think that there's more than one way of looking at Allen that's valid.
I pretty much agree with all of this. My only thing to say is that him sounding abusive isn't because he says mean things. I know how that is. It's the way he treats the MC. The biggest thing that bothers me is the "Be grateful" after he pays any attention or does anything not for himself. Along with the the whole "Whats yours is mine and whats mine is also mine. What? Don't like that? Soon that'll be the only way you want it to be.", that's just... really creepy. You could take that as teasing, of course. But nothing about it comes off that way to me. I haven't read ALL of his dialogue, and not all that I have read has been abusive/mean obviously. Part of it is the arrogant attitude, it's a humongous turn-off for me. Also not much for pretty boys, although his hair is cool. He's simply a bit problematic.

Another thing is if you like the way he is acting in terms of possessiveness and such, that really isn't a bad thing. Consenting D/s relationships are fun and good and not abuse!

I hope I'm not upsetting people by being so negative about Allen. I am not trying to say anyone is wrong for liking him, and it's fine to like whatever fictional guy you want haha. I just want to raise awareness! And.. Iunno discuss a character that they made that is so very different from the usuals we get.

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 10:50 pm
by poisonapple88
@ Above posters about Allen

It depends on how you read his lines, too. Like when he says be grateful, I'm imagining in my head it's this arrogant guy who's winking at me playfully. Like, he's teasing more over being truly abusive.

Cause I really don't get an abusive vibe from him. He doesn't put the MC down or verbally insult her. He thinks he's total hot stuff (which he is) but I don't get this vibe that he REALLY wants to hurt anyone. I think if Marvelous or Natsume thought he was on that side of the spectrum they would have changed his lines more.

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 11:05 pm
by LoveisSame333
I finally got Sanjay first heart event: (My character is named Anitzi) "Tea for Two"
Spoiler:
Sanjay: Ah, Ms.Anitzi. Welcome.
Mc: Nods
Sanjay: If you are here to see Master Amir, he is unfortunately indisposed at the moment. If you have a message...
-He gives you 2 chooses, I think I choose the first one-
Sanjay: :!:
Sanjay: My apologies. I thought you were here to see the master. I never thought for a moment that you might be here for me.
Sanjay: Allow me to apologize by getting you a drink. Do you have a little time?
Mc: :lala: :lala:
Sanjay:Please come through here.
Mc:nods
Sanjay: Sorry for keeping you waiting. Here is some herbal tea.
-You drink your tea-
Sanjay: I don't know what you like, Ms. Anitzi, so I hope you'll forgive me for serving you my personal favorite. Ah, it seems that you like it. I'm glad.
Sanjay: Seeing you smiling over the herb tea that I prepared for you, Ms.Anitzi. Well, it reminds me of just how warmly everyone here in town has welcomed me. Let us continue to be good neighbors in the future.
Mc: :lala:
Sanjay: Thank you very much for coming to see me today. Allow me to walk you back home.
-After you finish you return back home-

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 11:16 pm
by Sama
Honestly with the whole character is a jerk thing going on, I'm starting to think after a while, none of them are, but the creators did a darn good job of making them abrasive and down right rude until you get to know them. I hardly get rude comments from Allen now that he's at red heart, and from the dialogue I posted, it's obvious Neil is an undercover sweet heart. I'm now starting to believe you have to give everyone a shot. (I mean, look at Klaus! He's not a marriage candidate, but he, quite frankly put, is an « Mr.Gourmet's hat » until you befriend him. )

But anyway! Finally some Sanjay! Thanks for the post! :)

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 11:19 pm
by LoveisSame333
Sama wrote:Honestly with the whole character is a jerk thing going on, I'm starting to think after a while, none of them are, but the creators did a darn good job of making them abrasive and down right rude until you get to know them. I hardly get rude comments from Allen now that he's at red heart, and from the dialogue I posted, it's obvious Neil is an undercover sweet heart. I'm now starting to believe you have to give everyone a shot. (I mean, look at Klaus! He's not a marriage candidate, but he, quite frankly put, is an « Mr.Gourmet's hat » until you befriend him. )

But anyway! Finally some Sanjay! Thanks for the post! :)
I'm going to try to get Amir up next. :)

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 11:24 pm
by Billy--
Sama wrote:Honestly with the whole character is a jerk thing going on, I'm starting to think after a while, none of them are, but the creators did a darn good job of making them abrasive and down right rude until you get to know them. I hardly get rude comments from Allen now that he's at red heart, and from the dialogue I posted, it's obvious Neil is an undercover sweet heart. I'm now starting to believe you have to give everyone a shot. (I mean, look at Klaus! He's not a marriage candidate, but he, quite frankly put, is an « Mr.Gourmet's hat » until you befriend him. )

But anyway! Finally some Sanjay! Thanks for the post! :)
I do agree with Klaus, when I first met him, he was just an « Mr.Gourmet's hat », but me being me, I like to give everyone a chance of my friendship, and I gave him gifts everyday. He's actually not a bad guy to know :) I'll go away now since this is the Lover Dialogue topic, hehe.

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 02, 2012 11:54 pm
by neostar
Cher really did use some of our dialogue! It feels good to have helped her out! Though, I'm now wishing I would have collected the negative answers as well... ^-^;

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 03, 2012 12:00 am
by Kisari
poisonapple88 wrote:@ Above posters about Allen

It depends on how you read his lines, too. Like when he says be grateful, I'm imagining in my head it's this arrogant guy who's winking at me playfully. Like, he's teasing more over being truly abusive.

Cause I really don't get an abusive vibe from him. He doesn't put the MC down or verbally insult her. He thinks he's total hot stuff (which he is) but I don't get this vibe that he REALLY wants to hurt anyone. I think if Marvelous or Natsume thought he was on that side of the spectrum they would have changed his lines more.
That's fine if you imagine it that way... but most of his lines he seems to deliver with a pretty straight face. A lot of the things he says are things that make it sound like you inconvenience him, how you owe him, and how him giving you any attention is a blessing unto you. He obviously seeks control, the problem is he doesn't care whether the MC is okay with that or not. Since the MC is our character, you can easily rp it as anything you want. Allen is not an abuser, as he isn't real and the dynamic with the MC is completely up to your interpretation. It's some of the things he says are abusive and things that abusers say.

Plenty of things that are much much much more problematic and offensive get published and created daily. Marvelous/Natsume are not exempt from this simply cause the games they make are more innocent. I also don't believe that they shouldn't have created Allen, or that they should have changed his dialogue.

Abuse is not as clear cut as simply insulting someone or putting them down. There are a lot of forms of abuse. Abusers don't always realize they are being mean or hurting others.

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 03, 2012 12:11 am
by Lon Lon
Confession to Soseki
Spoiler:
Soseki: Oh, a ring? A ring? A ring?! Are you serious, MC?! Alright. Okay. For now, let's go somewhere else to talk about this.
*At goddess pond*
Soseki: Whoa, you really surprised me! My legs almost gave out from the shock. I mean, I'm a bit old for you, aren't I? We have a pretty big age difference between us. That's a fact, MC. Sure you don't want to date someone younger? That said, given you're both innocent and stubborn, you won't be giving up, now will you? Just to be sure, let me ask one more time. MC, do you really want to go out with me?
MC: *takes out ring*
Soseki: I see...Well, if you're that serious about it, I'm game too. From today on we're a couple.
MC: *hands ring over*
Soseki: Now that we're officially sweethearts, why don't we change what we call each other? Should make things more exciting. What do you want me to call you? Give it a bit of thought now.
- Keep the same name
- Change it
Soseki: So MC it is then. Hmm...That's a pretty good name. Oh? You don't want me to add "honey" at the end anymore? But...I've been adding "honey" now and again for a while. I feel like it fits you now. And after all, it does sound pretty cute! I'll keep using it sometimes, okay? This is the start of a fresh stage for us. Let's give it our best. Oops, I forgot about some minor business I have to take care of. I'll be on my way then. See you soon, MC.
Lovers dialogue at blue heart with Soseki (or one line of it)
Spoiler:
Soseki: I've never gone out with someone as young as you, so I'm actually rather confused. I don't know what kids talk about these days. But, I need to do my best and show you what I can do. I won't let you down.
Rod's words on your relationship
Spoiler:
Rod: Hey! MC! I heard you're in a relationship! Congratulations! You look very happy! I wish I had a girlfriend. I'm sure you two will be happy together!
Allen's take on it
Spoiler:
Allen: Hey, I heard you started dating? Congrats, I guess. Just don't do anything to get yourself dumped! You've got my support.
Okay, yeah now that age thing with Soseki is starting to get to me but I still like him. Rod's super sweet as usual, and I kind of want Allen as a sassy friend.
neostar wrote:Cher really did use some of our dialogue! It feels good to have helped her out! Though, I'm now wishing I would have collected the negative answers as well... ^-^;
Yay! :) I kind of wish I collected the bad answers as well. From now on I might try that.

Edit: Rod's green heart event with all the choices. I felt bad for picking negative choices. :(
Spoiler:
*Rod is looking at a bookshelf going *...* with annoyed scribbles and MC walks up to him causing him to go "!"*
Rod: Hey, MC! *hearts* Thanks for coming. It's great to see you!
MC: *nods* ?
Rod: You want to know what I'm doing? Studying, that's what.
MC: ?
Rod: I run a pet shop, so I need to know all I can about cats, dogs, horses and other animals. MC, do you remember how you let me take care of your chickens on your farm, before we started dating?
MC: *nods*
Rod: That was when I realized that I knew almost nothing about keeping birds as pets.
MC: ...
Rod: *annoyed scribbles* So I've started to read all sorts of books about animals, including birds. Just books aren't enough, though. The more I read the more I've been made to realize that I just don't know enough.
MC: ...
Rod: It's pathetic that I run a pet store but there's all this stuff I don't know about pets.
MC: ...
MC: Rod is trying hard but he's down about something. What should I say to him?
- I'll study with you
- I'll teach you
- Try looking after some animals
- You're pathetic

- I'll study with you <---
Rod: ! MC!
MC: *nods*
Rod: You'll help me with my studies? Thank you, MC.
MC: *music notes*
Rod: Along with you...I mean, with you at my side, I think I can do even better.
Rod & MC: *hearts*
Rod: Let's do this thing, then! Come sit beside me and let's read this book together, MC.
MC: *nods and walks up to Rod*
Rod & MC: *hearts*

- I'll teach you <---
Rod: ! What? Are you sure?
MC: *nods*
Rod: Thank you, MC.
MC: *music notes*
Rod: So can we get started? Can we start with the chickens?
MC: !
Rod: So there's this...and then...
MC: ? *sweatdrops*
Rod: So what happens if...this is like this?
MC: ...
Rod: ? What's wrong, MC?
MC: ...*shakes head*
Rod: You don't know, MC? What can we do, then? ! Ah! Neil might know! I'll go and ask him about it right away. Do you want to come along, MC?
MC: ...*shakes head*
Rod: Okay, I'll go. Come and see me later MC.
*Rod leaves*
MC: It look like Rod has cheered up a little. There's things to be learnt from him.

- Trying looking after some animals <---
Rod: ! You're right. A picture is worth a thousand words. Just like with the chickens, actually trying it is the best way to do it.
MC: *nods*
Rod: I know a guy who works in a zoo. I'll ask him if maybe I can try looking after some different animals. Thanks, MC. I'm going to do whatever I can, and be positive about it.
MC: *music notes*
Rod: I didn't really want you to see me like this, to be honest. But with you telling me to hang in there, to keep on trying...It's great. I'm really, really happy.
MC: *hearts*
Rod: How about we start by looking after the animals on your farm again?
MC: *nods*
Rod: Thank you, MC. Let's go and get started!

- You're pathetic <--
Rod: ! Uwah. Having my girlfriend say that really magnifies the hurt! Not sure if I can take any more!
MC: ...
Rod: I guess that's the price I pay. I'm going to mend my ways, you'll see! I'll learn all I can! Thank you, MC. I'm going to do my best from now on.
MC: *nods with music notes*
Rod: *ellipes bubble and then annoyed scribbles*
MC: ?
Rod: Your words have had a powerful effect on me. A damaging effect! I think I'm about to start crying...
MC: ! *sweatdrops* He's recovered, but maybe I went a little too far. Sorry, Rod!
And finally some of Rod's green heart lovers dialogue
Spoiler:
Rod: I've been telling a lot of people that we're going out, and everyone's very happy for us! What? Is it too much? I just can't help it. I want to brag to everyone that I managed to become your boyfriend.

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 03, 2012 4:14 am
by Sama
neostar wrote:Cher really did use some of our dialogue! It feels good to have helped her out! Though, I'm now wishing I would have collected the negative answers as well... ^-^;
Oh, hey! She did! ;u; I might do a quick run through on a second file with Neil to grab them if no one else does. c:

Another not-love-dialogue- not sure if it fits here, and if not, I'll take it away. It's one of the random events... Random not quite cutting it xD

Allen, Charles and Hina are the characters.
Spoiler:
Charles' Flirtatious Words

Charles: Oh, perfect! That's just the way I like my hair. You are the master, Allen. It's so good that we have you here in town.

Allen: *music notes* I'm honored that you think so. Of course, it's nothing when you consider my skill level. 

Charles: It's almost the Anniversary of the day I met Camellia, so I'm preparing a surprise for her. I need to get my hair ready for the big day.

Allen: *amused* I see. You're a real straight up guy, Charles. Or perhaps it's just that you really love Camellia.

Charles: *Hearts float above his head* Of course I do! Camellia is my goddess. My everything! 

Allen: You had to keep asking her out before she finally agreed to, didn't you?

Charles: *Nods* That's right. I whispered sweet words of love to her for day after day. It took a whole year before she agreed to go out with me. I'll never forget how happy I was that day!

Allen: (...) Wow... What did you say to her, then, that finally made such a goddess agree to be with you? I'd love to know.

Charles: That's my secret... Okay, okay. You did do my hair exactly the way I like it. I'll put on a complete reenactment for you. Sorry, Allen, could you be Camellia?

Allen nods.

Screen blanks out- Allen and Charles are now facing each other. 

Charles: Here we go.

Allen nods.

Charles begins jumping around with hearts above his head.

Charles: How beautiful you are! Your lustrous hair, your alluring gaze, your delicate skin. More than anything, I'm captivated by your rosebud lips... Please, use them now to whisper my name. And, if I may be so bold... To bestow upon my kiss of an angel.

Allen: (...) I see. A very passionate confession, indeed. I'm sure the recipient would remember it for the rest of their lives. (!)

Screen moves towards the salon entrance, where Hina is now standing. 

Charles: Ah, my cute little Hina! Did you come to get your daddy little chicky?

Hina: (...) Dad...

Charles: (?) What's wrong, Hina? Did you miss your daddy? I missed you!

Hina has an anger mark above her head. Allen and Charles are shocked. 

Hina: Dad, what were you doing? You're confessing your love to Allen?
Charles: *Shakes his head* Hina,.I was just...

Hina: *More anger signs* Now you're making excuses? I saw it with my own two eyes! You've got Mom! Why would you need anyone else? Dad, you're horrible! *More anger marks* And Allen? Really? I like Allen too! I'm not going to lose him to you!

Both Allen and Charles are surprised, Charles then sweat drops. 

Charles: Hina, wait. Please, listen to me.

Hina: *Another anger mark* Dad, I hate you! 

Charles: (!) Hina runs out. Charles then sweat drops.

Screen blanks out and comes back with Charles laying on the Salon floor.

Allen: Charles,.are you okay?

Charles: (...) *frustration squiggles* H-Hina, this is all just a mistake...

Allen: Hang in there, Charles!

Charles: (...) *a skull floats from his head*

Allen: (...) *Shakes his head* That's one complicated family. Don't worry. I'll let Hina know what was going on.
Oh, Hina... She's my favorite child ever. She's so cute outside of the event, but even here, haha xD

Re: Lover Dialog [SPOILERS]

Posted: Nov 03, 2012 6:49 am
by Poppyseed
I remember reading about that event~ It's hilarious~! Poor Charles.