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Rainy wrote:
Same here, if I were rude as a child I would get a stern look or spank and it never happened again lol

I'm actually craving pumpkin pie It's that time of the year~

Mmmmmm now I want some. Or pecan pie heated on the grill. (I work at Waffle House so I get free pie all the time, heating it up on the grill with some butter on top...pure bliss.)

Apple isn't saying anything because she has an eating disorder. Which makes me skinnier than I should be.

But that thing about Niko saying what he does is so sad. D:
Nobody should put themselves down that way.

Well to be fair, Rebecca seems to be a bit careless as a mother. o_o She's always up late, and I don't know what time she returns home. Toni always wanders off alone, too, unless it's meal time. Being neglected can make a child a bit rude. I'm not calling Rebecca a bad mom, but you think she would teach her son to know better.

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But seriously though I kind of agree that Tina wasn't fishing for compliments. That's like saying "I've been sleeping too much so I'm trying to get up early now." is fishing for compliments. I really don't see how the comment invited rudeness.

And kid or not, you shouldn't say things like that. Period. I mean, personally I wouldn't let my kid say that kind of stuff to people, especially when it was reall unprovoked. If I ever said something like that I woulda got popped.

But anyway.

Who here likes fried mushrooms? Those things are boss.

Okay I'll admit I'm a hardcore feminist that is way too stubborn and yes does pretty much nothing but reblog feminist stuff all day on Tumblr. It's so hard to enjoy anything now a days...

I admit I'm biased as I hate children.

Yes I love mushrooms soooo much. :D

Faye Scarlet wrote:Well to be fair, Rebecca seems to be a bit careless as a mother. o_o She's always up late, and I don't know what time she returns home. Toni always wanders off alone, too, unless it's meal time. Being neglected can make a child a bit rude. I'm not calling Rebecca a bad mom, but you think she would teach her son to know better.

I think it's more of that Rebecca can be pretty rude herself. She's said a few things that made me just stop talking to her cause meh. I don't like rudeness especially right after I just gave her a present!

I agree with Antiquely and Tetrisash... ^^... If you don't want people talking about your business, don't talk about your business to them.

Also I love both Tina and Toni, with this event or without~

Faye Scarlet wrote:Well to be fair, Rebecca seems to be a bit careless as a mother. o_o She's always up late, and I don't know what time she returns home. Toni always wanders off alone, too, unless it's meal time. Being neglected can make a child a bit rude. I'm not calling Rebecca a bad mom, but you think she would teach her son to know better.

I've noticed this, too. I'm not really a fan of Rebecca (which is a shame because I love her design). She seems like she's pretty careless at kind of rude, too, so maybe that's where he gets it. (Idk, just some of her comments/the way she talks just rubs me the wrong way...that's actually the case with quite a few people in this game! Hm...)

VanillaCookies wrote:Toni annoys me honestly. There's a difference between being brutally honest and downright rude, and he has a tendency to cross that line far more than the other kids in the game. That said, I maintain that 99.9% of all children are little monsters in disguise, so it's not that surprising that he's like that since he still hasn't learned to censor himself.
I'm not going to touch the weight debate though. Seems like a slippery slope to me.

Yeah Toni annoys me too, and you said it perfectly. He does cross the rude and brutally honest line a lot lol And not all children are little monsters lol Hina seems to be a little sweetie Although I've only had her unlocked for a season. I hope she doesn't randomly change into an evil child

Well, I am pretty hefty myself, so maybe I'm biased, but I think the kid should've been punished for what he said (though probably not to that extreme.) He's a little brat anyway, though, so my fuse would be a lot shorter and less forgiving with him than with a lot of other children.

Tetrisash wrote:what he said wasn't wrong, it was just the freaking truth. And no, I didn't say airheads worried about weight, I said airheads fish around for compliments, which is exactly what Tina did. People are really into jogging jog, people who want to remain fit jog, but no, she had to go and throw in 'oh QQ I need to lose weight! ;_;' As I said, if she didn't want Toni to respond about her weight in an honest manner, she can shut her trap next time and not bring up her weight at all. That goes for anything, and yes, this is a pet peeve, it pisses me off. If you don't want the truth told to you as opposed to empty brainless complimenting lies, don't even bring it up. And you know, she only makes herself look even better by physically attacking a little kid. Because child abuse is cool.

So you think it's okay to demean somebody about their weight? She wasn't fishing for compliments, she just didn't need to be treated like « Puppy Doodoo » because she may be overweight.

There's nothing wrong with saying "well, you do look a bit big", but it is NOT okay to mock somebody. That's as stupid as saying "Oh, you can't punish bullies in highschool because bullying is a natural part of life".

Teaching children that it's okay to demean people because they're different is beyond wrong. You should be ashamed of yourself. You condemn child abuse yet you think it's okay for a child to adapt behavior that is likely to turn into verbal abuse and misogyny later on?

The fact that you think your thoughts on that matter are okay is probably what disturbs me the most. What a hypocrite.

Personally, I love Toni. I think he's adorable~

But, seriously, I try not to take anything to seriously with events like this in the game, because, no one means for anyone to be offended.

Nethertheless, what Niko says sometimes really does seem sad. This game is so different from the isolated utopia of ToTT. xD

My, my. May as well throw my twin cents in, though I realize that as a male (and thus free from the lopsided social expectation) my opinion isn't particularly valuable. But as a fat person, might I just say that I prefer people being honest with me instead of walking on eggshells, nodding along to whatever I say? Yeah, it's never kosher to be rude to anyone about their appearance, but I don't think I should be allowed to get away with outright lying about my diet, for instance.

I 'unno. It's the people who can be perfectly (and harshly) frank with me that I find most valuable to talk to. While it's the folks too worried about giving 'PC' responses who end up making me feel most like I'm unequal -- bless 'em though, I can't fault their intentions, but their 'sheltering' inadvertently led me to feel more ashamed of my body, in the past. Because it's one thing to be treated poorly by rude people, but for reasonable fellas to defend me the same way they would defend an endangered species or some such... that's what truly felt isolating. But I got over it. Now, feel free to call me fat. That's an apt descriptor for what I am, after all. Shying away from it, or 'averting your eyes' so to speak, really only serves to vilify the term further.

Okay, that kinda turned into a tangental rant. Heheh. That's just my personal experience, for what it's worth. (Admittedly little.) I realize I have the luxury of being a bit more thick-skinned (ha ha!) than most.


As far as that scene goes... the game clearly painted Toni as the one in wrong, so what's the deal? Kid's in frightful need of some manners, and that's the point. I don't think this subject should be so taboo that we're not even allowed to have a 'fat shamer' look the fool. (That term is far too extreme in this case, even. I just can't think of anything more appropriate at the moment.) Especially with how blunt much of the Harvest Moon dialogue is, I'm happy to see them approach something resembling an 'edge'.

I think, in his own annoying way, Toni wasn't intending to be rude, nor do I think Tina was fishing for compliments. When I first saw the scene play out, I thought Toni was prodding her, and knew she would give chase. Sadly, she wasn't as out of shape as he probably thought she claimed to be, and he was caught. The event has a very common anime style feel to it where the little kid runs his mouth off and gets smacked, but really if it was truly a violent happening, if MC didn't get involved, I'm sure at some point we'd find Tina's body floating in the river courtesy of Rebecca.

As far as parenting goes, we don't know much about Toni's father, and Rebecca does work. I wouldn't say she's a poor parent...just a single mother raising a boy. Boys mature a lot slower than girls, and don't have the same emotional range regarding some topics. I have a young nephew that tends to make very obvious comments about things just because he doesn't realize that he's drawing attention to unwanted topics (like asking why some elderly people walk around with oxygen tanks or why some kids look drastically different from their parents). In the end, boys will be boys, and hey...Tina got her workout.

Klyde wrote:My, my. May as well throw my twin cents in, though I realize that as a male (and thus free from the lopsided social expectation) my opinion isn't particularly valuable. But as a fat person, might I just say that I prefer people being honest with me instead of walking on eggshells, nodding along to whatever I say? Yeah, it's never kosher to be rude to anyone about their appearance, but I don't think I should be allowed to get away with outright lying about my diet, for instance.

I 'unno. It's the people who can be perfectly (and harshly) frank with me that I find most valuable to talk to. While it's the folks too worried about giving 'PC' responses who end up making me feel most like I'm unequal -- bless 'em though, I can't fault their intentions, but their 'sheltering' inadvertently led me to feel more ashamed of my body, in the past. Because it's one thing to be treated poorly by rude people, but for reasonable fellas to defend me the same way they would defend an endangered species or some such... that's what truly felt isolating. But I got over it. Now, feel free to call me fat. That's an apt descriptor for what I am, after all. Shying away from it, or 'averting your eyes' so to speak, really only serves to vilify the term further.

Okay, that kinda turned into a tangental rant. Heheh. That's just my personal experience, for what it's worth. (Admittedly little.) I realize I have the luxury of being a bit more thick-skinned (ha ha!) than most.


As far as that scene goes... the game clearly painted Toni as the one in wrong, so what's the deal? Kid's in frightful need of some manners, and that's the point. I don't think this subject should be so taboo that we're not even allowed to have a 'fat shamer' look the fool. (That term is far too extreme in this case, even. I just can't think of anything more appropriate at the moment.) Especially with how blunt much of the Harvest Moon dialogue is, I'm happy to see them approach something resembling an 'edge'.

What do you consider being honest? Are you saying you are perfectly okay with someone you don't know coming up to you and telling you "you are fat and shouldn't eat that"? This isn't about "honesty". This is about treating fat people like they are people, and not as if their bodies are on display to be mocked and "fixed".

There is a difference between being told "stop stuffing your face fatty" and "hey you just had a dinner you don't need to eat anything else.".
In my opinion, I don't need to hear either. Me being fat does not negatively affect anyone else so why do they care? If I screw up my "diet" then it's on me to fix it, I don't need some « Duck Quacker » telling me I been bad.
Plenty of skinny people eat terribly, but no one cares what they are eating because they are skinny.
I have a better idea than "calling you on your fat" or "looking away from your fat". How about just NOT CARE? Is it really that hard for people to NOT police what you eat or do with your life? I don't need to hear "oh you aren't fat!" cause that's just sugarcoating and yes, that is obnoxious. But I think the best thing anyone has ever told me was "Who cares? Be happy."
Say you go to your friends and say "Hey I'm starting a diet, I'd like for you to help keep me accountable for what I'm eating!"
Nothing wrong with that, hell you asked them! But that is completely different from someone you hardly know thinking they deserve input just because they think they know what's best for you. Life is short, people can live it however they want.

If you're fine with people being "honest" with you, then I don't care. But what do you mean by shy away from it "villifys the term"? Are you saying by not calling fat people fat, and not constantly telling them they need to diet then we are vilifying them? I don't understand. And I am legitimately asking I'm not trying to be sassy. xD

Meh. I like Toni even though he can be rude sometimes. But you know what? He's a kid. That isn't an excuse for rude behavior, but it also means you shouldn't write him off forever as being a terrible, unlikable person. Granted this is just a game so it doesn't really matter, but I should hope that people don't do that to real kids.

I mean, when Toni insults the MC I usually just laugh. Maybe I have thick pixelated skin.