The tale of star rank, turnips, and frustration

Nintendo 3DS [ Game Guide ]. JP release = Feb 2012. NA release = Oct 2012. EU release = Sept 2013
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I built the seed maker in the first third of spring 2. Until then, I had only dug up really low level crops, even after drowning them in fertilizer. I read the way to get high quality crops was to get the seed maker, put higher level [even if only by a half star] crops in there, fertilize the resultant seeds, harvest, and repeat.

Now I'm almost done with spring and the highest level turnip I've harvested was 1.5 stars. What gives? I'm being liberal with the fertilizer still, and following the "way" to level up seeds, but nothing's happening.

I'm using the normal field instead of gravel if that helps...
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It takes awhile is all, I don't have a link handy but I saw a chart once that said to go from .5 to 5 stars you'd need a total of like 98 fertilizer per plant.

I noticed that you get some points for using the maker as well as points for fertilizer, some people also only water them every other day. Myself I only fertilize one plant of a plot and make seeds of that one, or two if I needed one for a festival. :)
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Are you watering them twice a day? If so stop doing that. Because Turnips grow so quickly it is easy for them to become fully grown without getting enough Fetlilizer to increase their star rank, even if you Fertilizie them every single day. So watering once a day and planting them in lousy soil to increase the growing time helps avoid the problem of harvesting crops that are the same Star Level as the seeds you planted.

Things also become easier once you get all the Makers. When that happens you get a special combination effect that increases the star of a product when you put an item through a Maker. A half-star Turnip can become a bag of 1-Star Turnip Seeds. Or if you're really lucky you could gain an entire star. For example I had 4-Star Cotton that would turn into 5-Star seeds.
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Also Icewings! I made an account because you made me be sick of lurking, so yay! :lol:
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Watering once only should be done if you don't have the seed maker and want to enter a crop festival.

Otherwise is best to grow them as fast as possible to get the benefits from turning the crops into seeds. In my experience the fertilizing points a crop has remain as long as you don't mix it with other crops with the same star rank but different number of points, I don't know what happens in that case.

Keep fertilizing just 2 crops in each field, harvest only those 2, turn them into seeds and then harvest the rest and plant again. That way you can avoid mixing ranks.

I don't really have proof that this is correct or anything, but it works for me.
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From the sound of it, the problem with mixing crops could be related to that rumor where you can't grow a different type of crops on a recently cleared field. It still thinks it is growing the previous crop, so to fix it, you have to go to edit mode and put the field into your pockets and take it back out.
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yenquest wrote:From the sound of it, the problem with mixing crops could be related to that rumor where you can't grow a different type of crops on a recently cleared field. It still thinks it is growing the previous crop, so to fix it, you have to go to edit mode and put the field into your pockets and take it back out.
Pretty sure that's only Paddy Crops though. Dirt fields don't seem to have that issue!
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*LaI* wrote:Watering once only should be done if you don't have the seed maker and want to enter a crop festival.

Otherwise is best to grow them as fast as possible to get the benefits from turning the crops into seeds.
The benefit is really only noticeable if you have the complete-set-of-makers combo bonus.

The tiny 'bonus' you get when converting crops to seed without that maker bonus seems equivalent to the additional fertilizer points you get if you eased up on the watering but *shrug* :(

Mixing crops (and I'm not including paddy crops when I say this) only ruins the chances of giant crops appearing really... Though I think I noticed once that I spread 1-star pineapple seeds on half a plot and the next day spread half-star pineapple seeds on the other half and come harvest time all of them have produced 1-star pineapples but that probably still needs to be tested...
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Icewings wrote:I built the seed maker in the first third of spring 2. Until then, I had only dug up really low level crops, even after drowning them in fertilizer. I read the way to get high quality crops was to get the seed maker, put higher level [even if only by a half star] crops in there, fertilize the resultant seeds, harvest, and repeat.

Now I'm almost done with spring and the highest level turnip I've harvested was 1.5 stars. What gives? I'm being liberal with the fertilizer still, and following the "way" to level up seeds, but nothing's happening.

I'm using the normal field instead of gravel if that helps...
Have you tried planting them on the terrace? It helps ALOT! Then harvest them, turn them into seeds, etc. Soon, you'll end up with a 5* crop/flower :)
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The best advice I can give is this, regarding turnips, due to their fast grow speed:

Water every other day. If the plants are greyish, water.

Fertilizer every day--in my personal experience, when I was working on star powers for my plants, I fertilized only 2 of each, the operating theory being that once you get the 5-star seed, you can convert as much as you need.

The primary effect of the fields is how long you can harvest/grow after a season ends and getting chance of big/giant crops.
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Rotochron wrote:Also Icewings! I made an account because you made me be sick of lurking, so yay! :lol:
Welcome to ushi, bro :0

I've been watering twice a day, which might be... why...
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Narase wrote:Mixing crops (and I'm not including paddy crops when I say this) only ruins the chances of giant crops appearing really... Though I think I noticed once that I spread 1-star pineapple seeds on half a plot and the next day spread half-star pineapple seeds on the other half and come harvest time all of them have produced 1-star pineapples but that probably still needs to be tested...
I meant mixing in your bag the same crop, with the same star rank, but that have been given different amounts of fertilizer. I'm not really sure about that, but I assume harvested crops retain the "points" they got.

I'm basing this in that I've had crops with the same rank, some in the fridge and some in my bag, give different rank seeds when turned into seeds. And the high ranked ones were the ones that had taken fertilizer 2 more days.
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Yes, make sure that you get all of the makers. It was impossible for me to increase my star level significantly before I completed the maker set. So get them all and unlock the medicine maker if you haven't already. After that, it should be a breeze to level up all of your crops, especially the fast-growing ones. I get a half a star added every time I use the seedmaker and I generally add half a star every time I grow them (in a soil field) and fertilize daily.
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This is what I do to level up crops: I only fertilize what's growing on the east side of the farm (just for organization plus watering is way easier), and then only the rightmost two spots on each field. As soon as a crop is ripe, I pick them all and turn only the two higher-rank crops into seeds. Then I replant when the old crop is gone. I've easily gotten nearly five star crops this way, but so far only with all-season ones. Single season crops take longer to get to five stars, but it could be sped up if I really wanted to.
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Icewings wrote:
Rotochron wrote:Also Icewings! I made an account because you made me be sick of lurking, so yay! :lol:
Welcome to ushi, bro :0

I've been watering twice a day, which might be... why...
I did the same thing. I was like.. why can't I improve. They even advised the fact that I could!

Naturally, this was a decision I immediately regretted and I'm currently cultivating delicious 3-star turnips now.
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