Ushi No Tane Forum

Anonymous Fish wrote:
I am aware of all of the 'emotional domestic abuse' situations you know. But comparing them to the personality of a fictional character is absurd. It's not like Allen seriously means everything he says, perhaps if you had just given him a chance you would be aware of this.

Also, I never said you were the one attacking people, I actually meant the people that were attacking you and sending you death/rape threats over tumblr which is what I meant by 'viciously'.

One more thing, why would someone stop playing just because of Allen? They aren't required to talk to him, why complain about a character you hate when you didn't even try to know the guy completely? I brought up Michelle since her personality is by far the worst out of all the ANB characters and was baffled by the amount of hate Allen gets in comparison to her.

And before I forget, I wasn't 'derailing' the discussions from abuse survivors at all. When did I do that? It just seems silly to me that someone would get so angry over a fictional character who was never intended to be an 'abusive husband' as many put it.

Also, to add to the discussion of the topic, I really hope we at least get some sort of a pre-order bonus. Even if it's just that rabbit strap.

um, comparing the words and actions of actual abusers to the words and actions of a character is absurd? really now? could you please logic for just a few minuets, it'd make things so much easier. or ya know, google it for yourself because it is not my job nor is this the place to be educating you on something so simple.

I'd also like to point out 'not meaning something' and 'it was a joke' are both things abusers claim when called out on their abuse.

really? you weren't? then boy did you word that horridly I must say, though if what you say here is the truth, I appreciate that.

see, thing is, he's very hard to avoid, and once triggered(aka, once he's made you remember a traumatic point in your life) even just seeing him can be enough to set off more triggers and make it nearly impossible to play the game. (and it doesn't even need to be him himself. he wasn't overtly triggery for me, though he did bring back bad memories, but what his psycho fans did to me did cause triggers and I couldn't even see him anymore without being reminded of them) if you want to change your hair at ALL you *have* to talk to him. it's not that easy to just completely avoid any character unless they come later and you can just not make their house so they can't move in. sadly, allen is not one of those characters, though michelle is(and I will say if she's anything like allen, she's not worse, she's most likely just as bad, and you've not noticed it because you like him)

I wasn't saying you were, I said don't. should survivors be talking about how allen makes them feel, you can bring her up and talk about how she makes you feel and how it upsets you that she's not talked about as much as he is, but don't completely take the convo away from the fact that allen is upsetting to a lot of people. I guess we're even now for misunderstandings/bad wordings.

also, as far as "not intending to be bad", it doesn't really matter. just last night someone was asking for lesbian characters in a series I like and someone replied "she's not a lesbian! she's a strong female character with a secret she doesn't want people to know." they didn't intend it to come off as lesbians can't be strong female characters, but that's what she said and she couldn't tell me what it was she actually meant by it (because there's really nothing else one *could* mean by that) but just because that's not what she intended doesn't make it suddenly ok. if people are calling him an abusive husband, regardless of how he's intended to be that's what he is, to us at the least.