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Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 23, 2015 8:32 pm
by trichorse
Love the pokemon swearing you've got going. But yeah, my notes only show Mosquitofish used once.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 23, 2015 8:39 pm
by K.D.
Oh man... not related to mutations, but Catherine is going to KILL me... I MISSED THE STARRY NIGHT FESTIVAL!

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 23, 2015 8:52 pm
by trichorse
Hey, I've missed my anniversery a couple of times. You've got nothing on me.

On another note, I can confirm that both sweet and fodder corn mutate from corn on dry soil at HE-3. So Lush is not a requirement, though it appears to be more frequent on lush soil than on dry.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 24, 2015 6:12 pm
by trichorse
I'm slowly moving forward with prepping the dry tiers, so I might be able to do testing the next spring I get too if all goes according to plan.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 24, 2015 6:28 pm
by Lirishae
Good luck, and may the Harvest Goddess bless your efforts! :heart: Sorry I'm not around helping, but I do plan to pick the game back up when there's new DLC released. Although I left off in winter when most of the testing needs to be done in fall, so that's gonna take awhile.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 24, 2015 6:30 pm
by trichorse
I'm betting on at least one of the remaining Pumpkin mutations being in a season other than Fall. Not sure why, but it's a feeling.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 24, 2015 6:40 pm
by Lirishae
Well, Giant Pumpkins are almost certainly fall, so it would have to be giant squash in another season, possibly spring. Both Huge Cabbage and Giant Potatoes mutated in the same season the base crop preferred, and Spring has the second lowest number of known mutations. Winter seems unlikely to me due to cream pumpkins mutating then, and it has the highest number of known mutations (20 compared to Fall's 11, Spring's 15, and Summer's 16). I'm kind of doubting we'll find anything else in winter, but with this game you just never know.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 24, 2015 6:43 pm
by K.D.
Just a thought, but we get 5 Giant Pumpkin seeds every stocking fest, right? How about we take those seeds and test it for Giant Squash? If we get Giant Squash, that eliminates the Giant Squash to Giant Pumpkin theory. Just a thought.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 24, 2015 11:58 pm
by Lirishae
Has anyone else ever grown Magical Berries without using berry blend? I distinctly recall when I planted for them, I planted two patches of white berries and fertilized one but not the other. At first only the fertilized patch mutated, but later the non-fertilized patch started to mutate as well. However, K.D. and a couple of other people have told me they could not grow them without using Berry Blend. Can anyone else chime in on this issue? If Magical Berry really is locked to Berry Blend, that means we only have three fertilizers left not associated with any mutation (four if you count organic).

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 25, 2015 6:39 am
by K.D.
Your best bet would be to ask on Miiverse since there is a lot of people on there. Just a theory, but what if you have 2 plots together and 1 is fertilized and then the other might gain the effects of the fertilizer. Kinda Farfetch'd I know.

I'm thinking that Giant Squash comes from Giant Pumpkins in Spring in mid to low elevations. I said Spring because the original Squash mutation is in Spring. As always, assume nothing because the Natsume team lives under a bridge.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 25, 2015 8:42 am
by K.D.
I would LIKE to say I got some Jalepenos at WL in swampy soil, but I did not. Reset 5 times, not 1 mutation.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 25, 2015 8:50 am
by Lirishae
Alright, Miiverse post made. Here's hoping at least a few people chime in with their experiences.

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 25, 2015 9:37 am
by irulethegalaxy
Lirishae wrote:Has anyone else ever grown Magical Berries without using berry blend? I distinctly recall when I planted for them, I planted two patches of white berries and fertilized one but not the other. At first only the fertilized patch mutated, but later the non-fertilized patch started to mutate as well. However, K.D. and a couple of other people have told me they could not grow them without using Berry Blend. Can anyone else chime in on this issue? If Magical Berry really is locked to Berry Blend, that means we only have three fertilizers left not associated with any mutation (four if you count organic).

Ugh, I want to say I have...but I honestly can't remember if I fertilized the damn things or not. I seem to remember not (other than accidental compost fertilizings...gah LOL). Definitely not a 100% confirmation here.

I would like to remind/point out to people though that regrowing plants can CONTINUE to mutate after the first harvest; in my first playthrough I had a patch of 30 or so strawberries going. I started off with 4-5 white berries in that group...by the time I decided ENOUGH ALREADY with the patch I had more than 20 white berry plants going. That's why I got rid of 'em...I wanted strawberries!

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 25, 2015 9:47 am
by irulethegalaxy
How long is the growth cycle on the white berries? I'm in Spring 22 on one playthrough, and I have the white berry seeds.

If that's not enough time, I can try to get my other save to the beginning of spring (just pick up the animals) and give it a shot...this might be the better idea since I *MAY* have previously fertilized the spot and even if I replant it might skew results?

Re: Mutation Info, Research, and Theories (Updated 3/27/15)

Posted: Apr 25, 2015 11:18 am
by trichorse
Only way I could get magic berries is with berry blend.

That said, even if berry blend is the trigger for white berries mutating to Magic Berries, it's only used once. While I think at least 3 of the missing mutations require our 3 unused ferts, the last one (and no telling which one it would be) might require a fert that's already been used, but has only been used by a single crop...which would include the 3 currently unused.