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Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: Apr 30, 2015 1:08 pm
by Solar Wind
tzencei wrote:I can't dive under the bridge when it rains. No matter the season, date, time. Anything.
MAJOR annoyance.
Do you mean when it rains or typhoons? Because I can go under the bridge during rainy days just fine.

I'm annoyed that we can't just move crops like in ANB. Yeah, we made the land instead of hoeing it, but I would have liked to have placed my long-growing crops somewhere else on my farm.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: Apr 30, 2015 1:23 pm
by Meriberry
Can some of those notifications get lost? I am aware that the watering can is empty, I KNOW I need to go fill it up. And I REALIZE I just filled it up, you don't have to tell me that either! It's Kind of hard to miss the little watering can icon filling up 8/

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: Apr 30, 2015 2:15 pm
by tzencei
Solar Wind wrote:
tzencei wrote:I can't dive under the bridge when it rains. No matter the season, date, time. Anything.
MAJOR annoyance.
Do you mean when it rains or typhoons? Because I can go under the bridge during rainy days just fine.

I'm annoyed that we can't just move crops like in ANB. Yeah, we made the land instead of hoeing it, but I would have liked to have placed my long-growing crops somewhere else on my farm.
It's like, literally whenever it rained I couldnt get under the bridge. So I thought it was just spring, but summer too. It just doesnt let me dive under. :/

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: Apr 30, 2015 2:54 pm
by Sea_Horse
I am grumpy at how finicky this reverse proposal business is. >_< Klaus, why are you never indoors!?

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: Apr 30, 2015 3:38 pm
by Lirishae
Sea_Horse wrote:I am grumpy at how finicky this reverse proposal business is. >_< Klaus, why are you never indoors!?
Seconded. Raeger is ready to reverse propose, but the first Saturday in Fall was rainy and Sunday was the music festival. Soooooo much deja vu (it took me five weeks to get reverse confession due to a combination of bad weather, festivals, and accidentally triggering other bachelors' events).

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 6:00 am
by Guest
The Jealousy thing with the final flower events with the guys is bugging the « Puppy Doodoo » out of me. Seriously, it wasn't cute in Rune Factory 4, it isn't cute in any other dating game, and it sure as hell isn't cute in real life! If I do continue with the series, this trend better stop.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 8:59 am
by rainydaze
Anonymous Fish wrote:The Jealousy thing with the final flower events with the guys is bugging the « Puppy Doodoo » out of me. Seriously, it wasn't cute in Rune Factory 4, it isn't cute in any other dating game, and it sure as hell isn't cute in real life! If I do continue with the series, this trend better stop.
can you elaborate? i'm not quite sure what you mean.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 9:58 am
by Lirishae
I don't know about other guys' flower events, but in Raeger's pink flower event...
Spoiler:
You enter the restaurant when it's not really busy, and Raeger asks you to hang out with him for a little while. But shortly after that, a bunch of female customers walk in, and Raeger ditches you to deal with them. So the MC is forced to sit there by herself, watching him chat up all those girls in a very friendly way, one of whom had in the past tried to get Raeger to go out with her. MC is upset by the situation, which Raeger notices but doesn't understand why (to him, the girls are just customers). The "bad" choice in this event is to complain about Raeger's behavior while the "good" choice is to frankly lay out what your own emotional needs are (telling him you want more of his attention).
I thought it was a pretty good heart event myself, and far more emotionally complex and mature than many recent BokuMono games. Jealousy and emotional security are very real issues in a relationship, and the good and bad outcomes of this event are both very realistic in my opinion. Pretending such issues don't exist in fantasy relationships would be to make them far shallower and the characters much less relatable, IMHO.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 10:00 am
by kenzo
Pretty annoying how you can't keep track of what clothes you have.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 10:27 am
by Ilmoran
Lirishae wrote:I don't know about other guys' flower events, but in Raeger's pink flower event...
Spoiler:
You enter the restaurant when it's not really busy, and Raeger asks you to hang out with him for a little while. But shortly after that, a bunch of female customers walk in, and Raeger ditches you to deal with them. So the MC is forced to sit there by herself, watching him chat up all those girls in a very friendly way, one of whom had in the past tried to get Raeger to go out with her. MC is upset by the situation, which Raeger notices but doesn't understand why (to him, the girls are just customers). The "bad" choice in this event is to complain about Raeger's behavior while the "good" choice is to frankly lay out what your own emotional needs are (telling him you want more of his attention).
I thought it was a pretty good heart event myself, and far more emotionally complex and mature than many recent BokuMono games. Jealousy and emotional security are very real issues in a relationship, and the good and bad outcomes of this event are both very realistic in my opinion. Pretending such issues don't exist in fantasy relationships would be to make them far shallower and the characters much less relatable, IMHO.
I read through the other bachelor's last heart event, and I think there are one or two others that deal with jealousy. Agate's last heart event also deals with jealousy:
Spoiler:
she get's jealous of you talking to Lillie, although she isn't sure what she's feeling at first. You can either tell her it's heartburn, in which case the event basically ends, or that it's jealousy. She admits you may be right, and feels bad for feeling jealous, but you cheer her up by essentially telling her a little jealousy is ok, and shows how much she cares, and admitting that you've been jealous over her before.
I also agree that they add to the characters, although in my opinion Agate might end up just a little too comfortable with feeling jealous.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 11:01 am
by Melody Muse
I agree that the jealousy thing is something that adds some depth to it, but it does seem a bit much imho. I'm just not super happy with how the jealousy events tend to end... It makes me uncomfortable in some ways. I agree a little jealousy is normal, but I feel like it's a bit "too okay" with it.

Then again, I know plenty of people who, at least when younger, found jealousy cute and endearing. I almost certainly am really biased against it because I've seen the super ugly sides of it with friends in abusive or at least toxic relationships with a giant heaping of jealousy. Obviously that's not happening in SoS, so it's a case you can argue I need to apply "it's just a video game" to it.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 11:15 am
by Ilmoran
Melody Muse wrote:I agree a little jealousy is normal, but I feel like it's a bit "too okay" with it.

Then again, I know plenty of people who, at least when younger, found jealousy cute and endearing. I almost certainly am really biased against it because I've seen the super ugly sides of it with friends in abusive or at least toxic relationships with a giant heaping of jealousy. Obviously that's not happening in SoS, so it's a case you can argue I need to apply "it's just a video game" to it.
Yeah, that's kinda what I was talking about with Agate; the exact dialog she uses is:
Spoiler:
But...someday I might feel all jealous again, just
like I did today.

That doesn't mean I don't trust you anymore, or
that I'm being mean...

It'll be just like you said. Proof that I love you a
whole lot.

So I really hope you won't hate me because of
my jealousy!
To me, that sounds borderline unhealthy, but I'm going to chalk it up to a combination of a) lost in translation, and b) she's a little over the top on everything; I'll just assume she's over-emphasizing how jealous she felt today.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 11:22 am
by Lirishae
Well, I just pulled up Agate's fourth event from the SoS dump and read it. I can definitely see how it would upset someone, but I do think there are important points made here, such as the issue of trust. The conclusion isn't exactly "a little jealousy is okay," but more that Agate decides, "When I feel jealous in the future, I'll deal with it by telling myself that it means I really love MC." Both Agate and MC accept that they have felt jealous in the past, and may feel jealous again the future. Instead of trying to pretend these feelings don't exist, or acting on them in a way that poisons their relationship, they decide to deal with it by telling themselves, "I feel this way because I really love MC/Agate. I trust him/her and I'm not going to let these feelings upset me or make me act like a terrible person. I'm going to try to turn these bad feelings into positive ones by thinking of them as proof I love MC/Agate." To me, the focus in this event is like Raeger's, on dealing with feelings of jealousy in a positive manner. But I can definitely see how someone would disagree.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 11:30 am
by Sea_Horse
Klaus' final heart event kind of made me frown because...
Spoiler:
The player character runs out in a fit of jealousy seeing him chatting with Iris and almost gets run over by a cart. Even though, you know, IRIS AND KLAUS CHAT ALL THE DAMN TIME.

Re: The minor annoyances thread

Posted: May 01, 2015 11:53 am
by Ilmoran
Sea_Horse wrote:Klaus' final heart event kind of made me frown because...
Spoiler:
The player character runs out in a fit of jealousy seeing him chatting with Iris and almost gets run over by a cart. Even though, you know, IRIS AND KLAUS CHAT ALL THE DAMN TIME.
Haha, yeah I saw that in the text dump. I thought it was weird too because
Spoiler:
the first time I met them, they were together chatting, and I kinda went "oh, are there rival romances? cool"; my hopes were immediately dashed when Iris said "FYI, we're not together or anything".