Ushi No Tane Forum

Hey there, it's only just come out in my country so my apologies for being so new/harping on about it so much when it's probably old news to everyone else

I was wondering if there were any general tips or things worth noting as a beginner that I should aim for or whether it's really ok that I just waste so much time and take things at my own pace a LOT ahah ^ ^ I'm loving it so much so far and haven't found anything too specific I struggle with, although battling has never been my strong point and I think may need to learn how to work on weapons since I died at the creepy mansion place despite a lot of grinding on previous monsters.

Probably the specific things I've wondered about:

- whats the significance of levelled objects, such as lvl 3 milk (s), its still small but its level 3? I was confused at first because it seemed that it sold for the same amount regardless of level too but then I saw that it just giving a random sell price if different levels were stacked together so I'm realising it might just be relating to the price... but then it confused me that you could have level 3 turnip for instance, which in theory is then selling for more but... the seeds cost the same? so... can you in theory level up to like a level 100 turnip and make MASSIVE profit then? If so is there a place that lists the profits for different levels of crops?

- regarding soil quality, I got the fertilizer bin thing and have it packed with weeds, but I was wondering is there anyway to supercharge the effect that has? Like I know you can go to the shop and buy individual square fertlisers but they are a LOT of money for a single square and I was thinking an upgrade for the fertilizing bin or putting special things in it would be a lot better for raising more soil quality. And also, is it ok that I continually use all the squares over and over without resting them? As in, does the fertilizing bin's effect keep up with or even surpass the effect of growing so much in the same spot all the time? Or do I seriously need to let it rest? and what would the consequences be of it getting too low? I have the magnifying glass but it looked so complicated to me that I couldnt really understand what I was seeing XD

- is there any rhyme or reason to monster taming? I've only briefly played RF1 and 2 and found them far too hard to cope with, and although this one is extremely welcoming to a derpy player like me and I like it, I feel like I'm doing it a bit hit and miss, sometimes I go through like 30 weeds/leaves/sticks/grasses and a monster still doesn't come with me, and other times only 3 or 4. Is it a matter of giving the chicken monster eggs for a higher chance of success because thats its preferred item? Or is it a cumulative effect, where you have to give it a lot of things to reach a total affection before it comes with you? So I might as well use cheap things?

- What's the recommended income method to focus on? I realise there's probably many ways and that most people probably haven't struggled for money since there's a lot of other things to worry about as well as money but I honestly do find myself a little shorter on money than I'd like to be, and realised most of the stuff I've been taking the trouble to gather is selling for less than 10g even when its more than level 1. The only thing that made me realise this might be silly was that for some reason the chicken eggs sell for nearly 300g so all this time spent trying to sell 7g wool was wasted, so now I've gone and focused my efforts on upgrading the barn and filling it with chicken thingies (which is where my previous thoughts about taming come from, I got them, but with difficulty).

- Is there an easy to understand guide for upgrading tools? Are the tool upgrades actually worthwhile? Like does the watering can water more than one square if you do and so on. I know about the forge and have the license I just haven't actually taken the time to get it all set up and try anything since I thought I might be too poor or not have the right materials for it all anyway.

- what's the deal with recipes, as in, if you don't know it, you can make it sure, but does having made it without unlocking the recipe first, unlock it? Or do you still have to conventionally "discover" it in game? And as far as the recipe bread goes, does that only apply to cooking and accessories or is there an equivalent bread for all "crafting recipes".

- is there really such a thing as using bait to improve fishing or is that something the villagers just say for realism? I thought it must be a matter of improving the skill level and/or upgrading the rod itself.

Sorry, I know it's all old hat for you guys but I tend to get a bit overwhelmed by the detail in these games and I like to understand thoroughly what I'm doing

Well first of all welcome to RF4 I'm glad your enjoying it. It's one of my favorite RF games.
Ill try to answer your questions the best I can.

You can really take your time with this game. You get no penalty for playing really slow or really fast. The only downfall to playing slow is if you want a certain bachelor/ette (Doug, Dolcy, Amber, Dylas, & Leon) although by the sounds of it you've already unlocked two of them so no worries there. I personally just upgrade my weapons a a lot (or buy them) and I take my tome with the story, while taking care of the animal-monsters.

- For the leveled objects it's a little hard to explain but the higher the level, the more it sells for. If your using say a level 3milk to make food - it will give you more energy (HP and/or RP) than if you used a level 1milk. Same with upgrading tools a level 4iron will make you tool slightly stinger than a level 1iron. So yes in theory the higher lvl. the crop the more it sells for. (Some crops just sell for more than others)

- The fertilizing bin can only go so far, you run out of weeds/colored grass in there fast. The fertilizer that you buy at the store can raise the level of the crops where as the fertilizer that you make on you farm just makes it so your crops grow at a normal speed. What I mean by that is if you use the same square over and over again not only can you crops lose levels it can also start growing slower if the square isn't fertile enough. I never use the magnify glass (it confuses me too) but they're ways to get you soil to "normal" without using fertilizer at all. You will lean how to do this later in the game (in you do the requests to earn prince/princess points) what happens is that you can grow certain crops (corn in one) and instead of harvesting it you hit it with a tool (sickle or how I don't remember which) and once you hit it all the soil in that area will revert back to normal.

-Monster taming isn't that bad once you get used to it. The monsters like food much better than junk. Some monsters like the bosses only like one certain crop or food and the only way to tame it is if you have a bunch of that item. The stronger the monster the harder it is to tame but just keep on doing what your doing and they will become tame eventually as long as you don't run out of items. For stinger monsters I use food and what I do is stay far away from them so they don't notice me and I chuck the food at them until they are tame.

- I grow a lot of the crops that sell for more (corn, four leaf clover<--flower, blue mist, ect.) At the top of each item if your looking at the description, it tells you how much you buy it for and how much you can sell it for, even if a plant sells for less remember you can plant the plants in a 3x3 squares so oink the end it can give you more profit than what you naught it for. For an example (just an example) you buy a bag of Turnips for 50g. When it's fully grown one turnip only sells for 25g. Well since one bag can grow 9 turnips - 9 x 25 = 225g. If you level up your crops then it will sell for more. Another good income is selling some of the stuff you find when you out exploring. Also if your walking around town sometimes you can find hidden items (they are most useless so I just sell it, use it for upgrades or give it as a gift)

- Sorry but there is no guide that I know of for weapons, tools and such, there is however a guide for all the items you need for upgrades. But yes upgrading your tools (not the level) will water more spaces or hoe more squares etc. So it goes something like hoe, iron hoe, bronze hoe, silver hoe and so on. Each upgrade will till a wider space if land if you charge it. (Hold the button down until you MC glows and let go and it will till that area)

- If you don't know the recipe yes you can make it but it will cast you a LOT more energy. Also if it is a very high lvl recipe then it could make you faint. There is recipe bread for everything (cooking, accessories, weapons, etc.) some things you can't make without a recipe, the more you make stuff the higher experience points you MC has in that area, the more items you can make and lose less energy. For example your trying to make a broad sword and you must have 10 skill lvl in making weapons, however you have only 7 skill lvl. You might still be able to make the broad sword but you will lose a lot of energy. Now if the broad sword was 20 skill and your only 7 skill then you can't make it at all. Sorry if this is confusing, it's hard to explain unless you try it yourself.

-I've never seen bait used in this game. The stronger the fishing rod the bigger fish you can catch, this is also a good way to earn money.

Hope this helps a little.

-Like KL/F said, take all the time you need. There's never a rush. Not even when the plot is attempting to create one.

-Anything that can be sold has an individual base lv. 1 price. Some things will sell for more at lv. 1 than other things, right? If the level of the item increases, so does the price... which is really, really nice with fish. You can see price differences pretty clearly with fish.

-Until you hit late game, it'd probably be best to rotate where you plant your crops because of what KL/F mentioned. You take penalties to growing if you continually reuse the soil without giving it anything to refresh it. The magnifying glass can be really helpful if you learn how to interpret it. Each square of soil has five properties that can be leveled up:
-[Health] reflects the health of the soil and its maximum is 255. If it reaches 0, plants will wither, die, and take penalties to growing. If you till Withered Grass, Four-Leaf Clovers, or Corn into the soil, Health will be restored.
-[Defense] has a max of 63 and protects crops from typhoons if you level it. You can boost this with Wettable Powder.
-[Growth] directly affects how fast crops grow and can go up to 5.0x. You can boost it with Formula items. Note that this can go down, too: I've seen it at 0.9x and such, which means slooooow growth.
-[Quality] causes the plant's level to increase, maximum is +2.00. You can boost this with Fertilizer.
-[Size] / [Sz.] has a maximum of +2.00 as well. This property, when positive, allows crops to become giant. If it's negative, it allows crops to be very small. You either boost or reduce this with Gigantizer or Minimizer, respectively.
Technically there's a sixth trait, but there are no items that can boost the [Number] property. [Number] increases the amount of crops you can get from a single plant.
iirc, all these show up when you equip the Magnifying Glass and you're standing on the soil. It allows you to care for the soil a lot more effectively.

-It also helps if you tame a lot of different monsters to level that stat up. I've noticed that if you're trying to get a lot of a single monster species it becomes much, much harder to tame them...

-I feel like everyone's shorter on money than they'd like to be in a lot of HM games until they get the ability to make such ridiculous oodles of it that they can waste it on things like vacation houses. Keep all your edible monster products! No store but Arthur's ever sells them. Arthur has a random inventory that resets every day. You'll need a lot of eggs and honey and milk and such for later cooking levels. Fishing is a good way to make money at any time, and it's my preferred method for the early stages of the game. And cooking, crafting and forging all produce items that can sell for a lot more than 300g.

-For upgrading tools? No, there's no guide, but it is worth it to upgrade them because they make your farming life quicker and easier. All your tools can be charged up if you hold the button and watch the glowy effects for a bit, and that's where the extended effects come from. Like, yeah, your watering can will be able to water waaaaay more than one square at a time if you upgrade it. When it's at its highest upgrade it can water half the field! It's totally fine if you don't have all the right materials right away for forging, by the way- the only time you'll absolutely require money for it is when you're getting the forge itself and you will always be able to gather what you need.

-Recipe bread covers all types of crafting, yes. Porco should have like ~7 types listed when you go to buy it from him, although I'm not sure if they'll all appear before you get the license for each station.

-No such thing, and so far as I know nothing's been proven about upgrading fishing rods with fish to make them more effective. Fishing rods have upgrades just like farm tools do, though, which makes fishing much easier.

Hey, no worries!

thanks guys C: I appreciate it ^ ^

the only thing I didn't really find answered in that was whether making a recipe you don't already have unlocked actually "unlocks" it or whether you still need to discover it, yes I was already aware it costs you more RP to make I wasn't' referring to that, I just meant, will it then appear in your recipe list afterwards and be "discovered" or do you still need to eat recipe bread to find it officially and then not need to use the extra RP then (in which case there's very little reason to make a recipe without finding it properly first).

Also, something else I'm realising is that trying to find the license answers online is really hard . - . like maybe I'm stupid but as a « new farmer » I had no idea and wouldn't have managed to answer the questions correctly first time round without them and I assume that would have cost me a lot of points until I did get it right XD As it is, I still can't find a place that tells me the airship license answers so I've left it until I can find it.

In case anyone else was looking for them, I only managed to find the other license answers here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/635388-rune ... faqs/68251

@clefairykid I know the answers to the airship license, so if you have the question and the 3 responses I could tell u which it is.

clefairykid wrote:thanks guys C: I appreciate it ^ ^

the only thing I didn't really find answered in that was whether making a recipe you don't already have unlocked actually "unlocks" it or whether you still need to discover it, yes I was already aware it costs you more RP to make I wasn't' referring to that, I just meant, will it then appear in your recipe list afterwards and be "discovered" or do you still need to eat recipe bread to find it officially and then not need to use the extra RP then (in which case there's very little reason to make a recipe without finding it properly first).

Also, something else I'm realising is that trying to find the license answers online is really hard . - . like maybe I'm stupid but as a « new farmer » I had no idea and wouldn't have managed to answer the questions correctly first time round without them and I assume that would have cost me a lot of points until I did get it right XD As it is, I still can't find a place that tells me the airship license answers so I've left it until I can find it.

In case anyone else was looking for them, I only managed to find the other license answers here: http://www.gamefaqs.com/3ds/635388-rune ... faqs/68251

About the recipes: yes, it unlocks the recipe for regular use. The reason we mentioned the RP cost is that making a recipe without learning it from the bread first generally extracts a truly exorbitant amount of RP that one must jump through hoops to attain.

About the licenses: The point deduction shouldn't take place until you correctly answer all the questions. There is nothing wrong with failing, either, it just means you'll be better equipped for the next time you try it out. One always has the option to simply reset their game and thus technically never fail as well, although that requires one to be the type that constantly saves the game.

thank you very much all! I just winged the license test and got it :'D
I've stopped growing crops for a bit just to at least take a mental break from it, since I got rid of most of my wilted weeds not realising they were important, but I'm saving them now. Got a second field, didn't even realise there was such a thing, so awesome! Plenty of room for collecting the building materials and for crops to go later.

I've also started trying to forge things, although I have a lot of trouble finding any bronze let alone higher ores yet so it's not making quite the speedy tool progress that I'd hoped Is there any use for the scrap iron? Everything I try to forge with it fails so XD

Feel pretty keen to try and go for "every recipe" one day :D :D Started a google doc to collect them and cross them off c:

edit: NEW QUESTION - I got super lucky and found some apple tree seeds by killing an apple monster, and was wondering if I ship them instead of growing them, does that unlock them for buying at the store?

I don't think shipping fruit trees unlocks it in the store though I could be wrong. I know there are quests from Elisa harvest x amount and it unlocks the seeds in the shop. If you go 2 screens (west/left) then 2 (north/up) from the Obsidian Mansion there is a big tree in a clearing you can collect a tree seed from it each day - apple, grape, orange and shining.