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Ahhh

Finished conquest. Ngl the plot was real dumb at times, but the latter chapters/finale were soooooo good. Really improved my opinions on the Hoshido family quite a bit.

Major Spoilers
Spoilers about Odin, Laslow, Selena, and Soleil. Post game

I might finally get Conquest and Revelation after Easter! I just realized I can use my mobile data to download instead of unreliable dorm wifi lol and we're spending the holiday with relatives so I'm hoping for advanced birthday money hahaha

Finalized my Birthright kids pairs too!

Started revelations a day or two ago. On chapter 13 and doing hard/casual. Maaaan tho. I miss conquests' distribution of stats. My units get pitiful stat increases on level ups. Also grinding for levels/stats is a major pain. I need to stop and focus on select units, but kind of grinding everyone right now since I'm grinding for supports.

Side note, I wish camilla had better supports with MU. I love her tons. ;;

ALSO some revelation talk (not really spoilers just MENTION OF TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO SHOULDVE BEEN ABLE AT LEAST SUPPORT A LITTLE BIT GDI NINTY)
Edit: oh maaaaan

Peri x Soleil support festival dlc spoilers

@Blue Rose on Camilla: I do too. I love her in the story, but her supports with Corrin aren't all that great.

I already started on Chapter 27 and then some units died on 28. I'm just so excited to finish it that I got a bit reckless. So sad that I wasn't able to finish Birthright just on time for the one monthsary of the FE:Fates release. But technically, I only officially started playing Birthright on the 20th. XD

I decided to not finished Chapter 27 to 28 in order to finish some siblings and parents supports first since I might change some pairings once I get to Revelations. I'm not going to finish the first gen supports since I could complete them in the third path.

Going to start my Conquest file later and it's going to be bittersweet. I hate seeing Takumi angry with my FeMui. DX As for pairing my new FeMui up in Conquest, I have a hard time deciding whether to go with Xander or Leo. Based from what I researched, I have to start with a different boon, bane and talent to complement them. D;

cinnamon_yuki wrote:Going to start my Conquest file later and it's going to be bittersweet. I hate seeing Takumi angry with my FeMui. DX As for pairing my new FeMui up in Conquest, I have a hard time deciding whether to go with Xander or Leo. Based from what I researched, I have to start with a different boon, bane and talent to complement them. D;

Just curious, what's the best boon, bane, and talent to complement them? I'm thinking of pairing my FeMui with either of them too =)

Pachi wrote:

cinnamon_yuki wrote:Going to start my Conquest file later and it's going to be bittersweet. I hate seeing Takumi angry with my FeMui. DX As for pairing my new FeMui up in Conquest, I have a hard time deciding whether to go with Xander or Leo. Based from what I researched, I have to start with a different boon, bane and talent to complement them. D;

Just curious, what's the best boon, bane, and talent to complement them? I'm thinking of pairing my FeMui with either of them too =)

I asked this over at Gamefaqs. Only one answered completely. XD

For Xander: Either +Str or +Spd and then -Def, Samurai Class
For Leo: +Magic and the -Str, Diviner

I'm having a hard time since they have different boon and bane so I have to decide early on. DX

cinnamon_yuki wrote:

Pachi wrote:

cinnamon_yuki wrote:Going to start my Conquest file later and it's going to be bittersweet. I hate seeing Takumi angry with my FeMui. DX As for pairing my new FeMui up in Conquest, I have a hard time deciding whether to go with Xander or Leo. Based from what I researched, I have to start with a different boon, bane and talent to complement them. D;

Just curious, what's the best boon, bane, and talent to complement them? I'm thinking of pairing my FeMui with either of them too =)

I asked this over at Gamefaqs. Only one answered completely. XD

For Xander: Either +Str or +Spd and then -Def, Samurai Class
For Leo: +Magic and the -Str, Diviner

I'm having a hard time since they have different boon and bane so I have to decide early on. DX

I'm nearly finished with conquest and Xander and Leo are my favorites as spouses as well What I've noticed is that both of them are in desperate need of speed more than anything else. Neither can double on a regular basis, and Xander is quite Res weak as Leo is physically frail. My current FeMui has +Spd/-Luk, which especially complements Leo well. The pair-up speed bonus may not be enough for him to double, but it at least gets him out of the trouble of being doubled by an enemy, and his children would like decent speed from FeMui to counteract Leo's own poor speed genes xD Leo's Mag is solid, so personally I don't think a +Mag boon FeMui is something he needs, especially since would greatly appreciate a hand in Spd and Def.

As far as talents go, choosing one doesn't necessarily need to be done with Leo or Xander in mind unless you are certain that you want their ending class to be something otherwise unattainable. Both boys have perfectly viable secondary classes and buddy classes with handy skills to obtain (Leo can buddy Odin for Astra, Xander inherently has the wyvern rider line for Savage blow and Trample and can buddy Kaze for the ninja line) and considering conquest's play style, there isn't much time, resources or experience to dawdle when it comes to changing classes excessively for skills. I can see how Xander may benefit from the skills from the Samurai line though, since he cannot access it in conquest, unlike Leo. In any case, due to the existence of buddy and marriage supports, I think that conquest MUs should choose Hoshidan talents and vice versa to add to the available skill pool.
I chose my spear fighter as my talent because it's a Hoshidan class that is unavailable in conquest and it offers a nice skill called Rend Heaven which can be passed to Leo's and Xander's children, who do not inherit FeMui's talent class line. Since FeMui's talent class line is relevant to FeMui, FeMui's spouse, and FeMui's child (but not the child who is tied to her husband), it may be best to choose based on the benefit of FeMui and FeMui's child more than that of FeMui's husband. However, it all depends on who you decide to prioritize, and what final classes/builds you plan to use for them!

Anonymous Fish wrote: I'm nearly finished with conquest and Xander and Leo are my favorites as spouses as well What I've noticed is that both of them are in desperate need of speed more than anything else. Neither can double on a regular basis, and Xander is quite Res weak as Leo is physically frail. My current FeMui has +Spd/-Luk, which especially complements Leo well. The pair-up speed bonus may not be enough for him to double, but it at least gets him out of the trouble of being doubled by an enemy, and his children would like decent speed from FeMui to counteract Leo's own poor speed genes xD Leo's Mag is solid, so personally I don't think a +Mag boon FeMui is something he needs, especially since would greatly appreciate a hand in Spd and Def.

As far as talents go, choosing one doesn't necessarily need to be done with Leo or Xander in mind unless you are certain that you want their ending class to be something otherwise unattainable. Both boys have perfectly viable secondary classes and buddy classes with handy skills to obtain (Leo can buddy Odin for Astra, Xander inherently has the wyvern rider line for Savage blow and Trample and can buddy Kaze for the ninja line) and considering conquest's play style, there isn't much time, resources or experience to dawdle when it comes to changing classes excessively for skills. I can see how Xander may benefit from the skills from the Samurai line though, since he cannot access it in conquest, unlike Leo. In any case, due to the existence of buddy and marriage supports, I think that conquest MUs should choose Hoshidan talents and vice versa to add to the available skill pool.
I chose my spear fighter as my talent because it's a Hoshidan class that is unavailable in conquest and it offers a nice skill called Rend Heaven which can be passed to Leo's and Xander's children, who do not inherit FeMui's talent class line. Since FeMui's talent class line is relevant to FeMui, FeMui's spouse, and FeMui's child (but not the child who is tied to her husband), it may be best to choose based on the benefit of FeMui and FeMui's child more than that of FeMui's husband. However, it all depends on who you decide to prioritize, and what final classes/builds you plan to use for them!

Thank you so much for this very detailed explanation! This has been what I'm looking for! I found Rend Heaven quite useful on Takumi during my Birthright run. I might consider Spear Fighter as my talent.

cinnamon_yuki wrote:

Anonymous Fish wrote: I'm nearly finished with conquest and Xander and Leo are my favorites as spouses as well What I've noticed is that both of them are in desperate need of speed more than anything else. Neither can double on a regular basis, and Xander is quite Res weak as Leo is physically frail. My current FeMui has +Spd/-Luk, which especially complements Leo well. The pair-up speed bonus may not be enough for him to double, but it at least gets him out of the trouble of being doubled by an enemy, and his children would like decent speed from FeMui to counteract Leo's own poor speed genes xD Leo's Mag is solid, so personally I don't think a +Mag boon FeMui is something he needs, especially since would greatly appreciate a hand in Spd and Def.

As far as talents go, choosing one doesn't necessarily need to be done with Leo or Xander in mind unless you are certain that you want their ending class to be something otherwise unattainable. Both boys have perfectly viable secondary classes and buddy classes with handy skills to obtain (Leo can buddy Odin for Astra, Xander inherently has the wyvern rider line for Savage blow and Trample and can buddy Kaze for the ninja line) and considering conquest's play style, there isn't much time, resources or experience to dawdle when it comes to changing classes excessively for skills. I can see how Xander may benefit from the skills from the Samurai line though, since he cannot access it in conquest, unlike Leo. In any case, due to the existence of buddy and marriage supports, I think that conquest MUs should choose Hoshidan talents and vice versa to add to the available skill pool.
I chose my spear fighter as my talent because it's a Hoshidan class that is unavailable in conquest and it offers a nice skill called Rend Heaven which can be passed to Leo's and Xander's children, who do not inherit FeMui's talent class line. Since FeMui's talent class line is relevant to FeMui, FeMui's spouse, and FeMui's child (but not the child who is tied to her husband), it may be best to choose based on the benefit of FeMui and FeMui's child more than that of FeMui's husband. However, it all depends on who you decide to prioritize, and what final classes/builds you plan to use for them!

Thank you so much for this very detailed explanation! This has been what I'm looking for! I found Rend Heaven quite useful on Takumi during my Birthright run. I might consider Spear Fighter as my talent.

Yes, thank you! I have the +Spd/-Luk boon-bane too + ninja as talent, so I guess I'm alright? Haha but I'm actually not too particular about classes/builds; I just do whatever to survive the maps But still, it's good to know that info!

Beat Revelation last night, almost exactly a month later. Now that I beat all 3 I'm just like, "What do I do with myself now?"

Beedlebud wrote:Beat Revelation last night, almost exactly a month later. Now that I beat all 3 I'm just like, "What do I do with myself now?"

You move on.
...
Or you play through the routes again as the opposite gender, whatever works.

Been grinding supports like a mad woman and so far the only new ones (or at least revelation restricted ones are saizo x Charlotte. I was really surprised too cause I figured it'd be a hot mess but they're supports are pretty good? Haven't seen S support but otherwise good IMO.

Both takumis supports with Elise and Camilla were meh. I really liked Takumi x Camilla but IMO the ending to their S support crash landed badly. I've seen worse but considering how cute/amusing it was previously? Ehhh

So far tho, only supports that I find super disappointing is takumi x Felicia and Arthur x camilla. Altho the latter had a funny A support moment at the end.

Blue Rose wrote:Been grinding supports like a mad woman and so far the only new ones (or at least revelation restricted ones are saizo x Charlotte. I was really surprised too cause I figured it'd be a hot mess but they're supports are pretty good? Haven't seen S support but otherwise good IMO.

Both takumis supports with Elise and Camilla were meh. I really liked Takumi x Camilla but IMO the ending to their S support crash landed badly. I've seen worse but considering how cute/amusing it was previously? Ehhh

So far tho, only supports that I find super disappointing is takumi x Felicia and Arthur x camilla. Altho the latter had a funny A support moment at the end.

Revelations will be quite a problem to me in terms of pairing. I originally plan to paired off my FeMui with Silas or Kaze (Jakob was in my original list but he was wrote off because I don't like him much anymore though he's quite amusing at times.) but I adore Takumi so much and I might grow attached to either Xander or Leo once I officially start my Nohr file.

I haven't started on grinding supports for my Nohr file yet but I'm really torn between Leo and Xander. If I grown attached to either of them, another dilemma will appear when I start Revelations: Takumi or Leo/Xander. I wouldn't mind marrying off Xander to Hinoka though. They seem to go well with each other. XD

Played a lot more this weekend, have a more solid understanding of my pairings:

Conquest supports