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Explore Lulukoko, Tsukuyusa, and Westown in this multi-cultural farming game for Nintendo 3DS. [ Game Guide ] JP release = Jun 2016. NA release = Feb 2017. EU release = Oct 2017.
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That. Is not a jade. That is an aquamarine.

Considering the fact that you called a 'lapis lazuli' in RF4 an 'aquamarine', it is readily apparent that you have no idea what an aquamarine is lol.

Seriously though, can anyone explain how this kind of mix-up can happen? I can't figure it out.
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It isn't a mixup, that item is called Jade in the Japanese version too. I know it doesn't really look like one, but jade can come in light blue, even though it isn't cut like that.
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Also, rude as anything, jfc.
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I honestly wouldn't have noticed or cared? I mix up gems all the time in real life because I "stereotype" colors and cuts lmao.
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I doubt it's a mix-up so much of a lack of knowledge. Mastery over each and every gem would be a kind of esoteric skill for people making a farming game.
It sucks when something you really care about is not represented well, but it's important to adknowledge the fact that its a niche skill and not common sense.
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Nurse Fin wrote:It isn't a mixup, that item is called Jade in the Japanese version too. I know it doesn't really look like one, but jade can come in light blue, even though it isn't cut like that.
IIRC the jade in SoS were also a really light blue (or at least bluer than you would think of when it comes to jade), so possibly it's a regional thing?
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Also, the "lapis lazuli mislabel" you claim is in RF4 has been called an aquamarine since the first Rune Factory. So the alleged mixup of gemstones is not an XSeed issue; it's marv/the developer.
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Nurylon wrote:I doubt it's a mix-up so much of a lack of knowledge. Mastery over each and every gem would be a kind of esoteric skill for people making a farming game.
It sucks when something you really care about is not represented well, but it's important to adknowledge the fact that its a niche skill and not common sense.
I think what you're saying is true, but I'm making a (kind of) farming game and I did pretty extensive research into the gemstones. I even went to an artists colony in my city and spoke with gemologists and lapidaries about their work and checked out their equipment... but I actually have a gemologist character and the setting is based on a specific (real) location with a limited variety of minerals to be found so it's more important to do research. I also just REALLY love learning, so there's that >__>

But it's such a minor part of this game... the mining feature has been almost completely shafted so it wouldn't make sense for the developers to put a lot of effort into accuracy. The prices of gemstones in 3oT is really really REALLY off compared to their real-world value, too (emeralds can cost upwards of $14,000 per carat, but in this game it sells for the same price as agate, which is a bargain-bin gemstone lol)
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I just googled 'Aquamarine' and a gem that looks exactly like that pops up in images. *Shrugs*, I would never notice if a gem was accurately or inaccurately represented.
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Nurylon wrote:I doubt it's a mix-up so much of a lack of knowledge. Mastery over each and every gem would be a kind of esoteric skill for people making a farming game.
It sucks when something you really care about is not represented well, but it's important to adknowledge the fact that its a niche skill and not common sense.
I think what you're saying is true, but I'm making a (kind of) farming game and I did pretty extensive research into the gemstones. I even went to an artists colony in my city and spoke with gemologists and lapidaries about their work and checked out their equipment... but I actually have a gemologist character and the setting is based on a specific (real) location with a limited variety of minerals to be found so it's more important to do research. I also just REALLY love learning, so there's that >__>

But it's such a minor part of this game... the mining feature has been almost completely shafted so it wouldn't make sense for the developers to put a lot of effort into accuracy. The prices of gemstones in 3oT is really really REALLY off compared to their real-world value, too (emeralds can cost upwards of $14,000 per carat, but in this game it sells for the same price as agate, which is a bargain-bin gemstone lol)
Oh that's so cool! Actively engaging in their community must have really been an experience :3 There is that thing, though, where we kind of silently adknowledge that it's an exception and not the rule to do something like that.

It's pretty marvelous when 'smaller' subjects are expanded but, there's probably always going to be *something* that's not expanded on very well. This is from memory and I'm no expert on the subject so take the example with a grain of salt but, I remember with the last SoS game, someone was really upset that a bird had been mis-labeled--a female robin had been counted as a completely different kind of bird. As a bird specialist this really bugged them but since that's super niche knowledge in any cultures SoS is really going to be sold in (I think?) no-one could relate to them and any responses shot them down as being rude, actually. So this thread reminded me of that one...

It really has been. I miss there being a real mining shaft, instead of mining being shafted. Haha, ha. It really helped to flesh out the archaeologist characters, too. Versus Licorice in SoS, who had a lot of botany knowledge, but she always interrupts herself from 'babbling on about it' to the player and so there's only a touch of botany knowledge given to you. Or maybe the archaeologists were like that, too?? It's been a long time since I've played games with a real mine.
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princesszelda wrote:Also, rude as anything,
Nah, more like playful scolding. Or arguing. Or something.
princesszelda wrote:I just googled 'Aquamarine' and a gem that looks exactly like that pops up in images. *Shrugs*, I would never notice if a gem was accurately or inaccurately represented.
Yeah, the issue is that it's called a jade, when aquamarines are specifically known to be light blue in color and cut in teardrop shapes. Even blue jades are nowhere near that light of a blue. Or that blue of a blue, for that matter. :/
Nurylon wrote:But it's such a minor part of this game... the mining feature has been almost completely shafted so it wouldn't make sense for the developers to put a lot of effort into accuracy.
Which is funny because I learned the classic Aquamarine appearance through Harvest Moon and Hamtaro Ham-Ham Heartbreak. Either Natsume has been correcting them all these years, or somebody who doesn't care about gemstones is doing these things now. I certainly wouldn't have made that mistake and I'm not even a major gemstone enthusiast. (I do, however, like mining in video games. So that's probably a thing.)

You have a point about how little mining even matters these days, though. :( I am disappointed in you, Marvelous. Learn your gemstones! lol
Also, the "lapis lazuli mislabel" you claim is in RF4 has been called an aquamarine since the first Rune Factory. So the alleged mixup of gemstones is not an XSeed issue; it's marv/the developer.
From what little I've seen of XSeed's work, they tend to be a little TOO literal with their translations. Well, I guess that's better than the opposite end of the spectrum. So many games these days suffer from horrible translations that had things changed for no reason at all. (And I'm not even speaking of censoring, either. Just...random dialogue changes for no reason)

I don't mean to sound like I dislike the game. I'm just somewhat sad that professionals could mix up something I considered so easy to recognize. Emeralds, Diamonds, and Aquamarines are always shown in specific shapes, so it's difficult for me to imagine people mixing them up with anything else.
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Yeah, the issue is that it's called a jade, when aquamarines are specifically known to be light blue in color and cut in teardrop shapes. Even blue jades are nowhere near that light of a blue. Or that blue of a blue, for that matter. :/
Ooooh okay, gotcha. Totally misread that. Yeah that is definitely not jade, lol. I still wouldn't have known whether aquamarine was light or dark blue without googling though.
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Funny topic.

I´m studying geo science at my university and I had to get used to the fact, every mineral or stone could also come in different colours during my first year of study.
There are even pink saphires or yellow emeralds, but they are commonly known for their dark blue or green colors.

Jade could also come in blue colors, but you are right, if you say, this shown mineral does nothing have in common with jade.
It´s to clear (you can watch through) and jade is in every case more turbid.

Minerals are rare found in nature as purely minerals, so there are also impurities or defects in the mineral cluster, cousing different colors depending on the cations.
Also there are some kinds of minerals known as jade, who aren´t real jade. Seems like someone named the stone allready in the original game, who hasn´t had so much knowlege of this topic.
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Not that it matters at all (this is a pretty stupid topic to argue over) but here is some blue jade that's pretty clear

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