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Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 5:52 am
by Guest
No character in this game would die of old age, right? When it happened in the last SOS I didn't really want to play the game much

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 6:26 am
by Sufjan Swordsman
I don't think anybody dies, or at least I haven't heard of it.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 6:33 am
by Pluupy
Part of what I like about Dragon Quest games is how cruel they can be. People die. That's a fact of life. Those games aren't afraid of showing death in an undramatic manner. I was very impressed with Story of Seasons to have a character die off like that. It's not often you come across something like that.

Of course, according to what Dessie says in Trio of Towns, "that was decades ago". Even the protagonist of the first Story of Seasons is old now, if not middle-aged. I wonder if the woman's grave is still cared for...

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 6:37 am
by Lenna36
Pluupy wrote:Part of what I like about Dragon Quest games is how cruel they can be. People die. That's a fact of life. Those games aren't afraid of showing death in an undramatic manner. I was very impressed with Story of Seasons to have a character die off like that. It's not often you come across something like that.

Of course, according to what Dessie says in Trio of Towns, "that was decades ago". Even the protagonist of the first Story of Seasons is old now, if not middle-aged. I wonder if the woman's grave is still cared for...
I sure hope at least one of my kids is taking care of it. My SOS MC has got a good farm going.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 6:39 am
by Feather Qwill
I remember my very first Harvest Moon experience (HM64) which I played with no access to any sort of guide and everything was great and then Ellen died and I was like WHAT. What even. (T__T)

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 6:40 am
by Pluupy
Lenna36 wrote: I sure hope at least one of my kids is taking care of it. My SOS MC has got a good farm going.
Your kids will just abandon the farm.

Your only hope is for your grandchildren, who will return to the farm when it is a mess of boulders too large for the common hammer and trees too thick for the common axe. The field, covered in weeds and aforementioned debris. The house will also mysteriously be smaller than what it used to be and any remnants of other buildings or structures will be gone. Luckily, your grandchild really loves farming and might even marry one of the locals around their age.
Feather Qwill wrote:I remember my very first Harvest Moon experience (HM64) which I played with no access to any sort of guide and everything was great and then Ellen died and I was like WHAT. What even. (T__T)
Holy poops I didn't know about this.
Starting from the second year, if the player talks to Ellen while she's sitting outside, she will die. The best way to tell if is to check and see if she is rocking back and forth. If she is, it's fine to talk to her; if she's sitting still, talking to her will cause her to die. This includes festival days. If the player is trying to woo Elli, she will become harder to win over as she will be grieving her grandmother's death.
Marrying Elli will cause Ellen to never die.
Source: http://harvestmoon.wikia.com/wiki/Ellen_(HM64)

What on earth?! As if the player character causing her death wasn't odd enough. Apparently, we can also grant her immortality by marrying her granddaughter. This lady is an enigma.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 6:48 am
by Dearie
I married Elli in that game, and Ellen died. I think I married her too late? I had no guide or anything for reference.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 6:57 am
by Feather Qwill
Pluupy wrote: What on earth?! As if the player character causing her death wasn't odd enough. Apparently, we can also grant her immortality by marrying her granddaughter. This lady is an enigma.
It's less that you kill her, and more that she's sort of a Schrodinger's cat. While she's 'sleeping' in her rocking chair, she's already dead, but the player is unable to observe this without talking to her, so she's also alive. If the player talks to her, he discovers she's dead, but if he doesn't, there's no reason to assume she wasn't just sleeping.

My theory was that Ellen passing away in her sleep (due to a heart attack?) is prevented by marrying Elli because Elli takes her to the doctor before moving in with you, the doctor discovers the heart problem and prescribes meds. Or else she just is given a New Lease on Life through the healing Power of Love.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 7:36 am
by Guest
What? Nobody dies in this game? That sucks. Not even Ford? Can't Woofio kill him? Maybe that's a DLC scene. I want Woofio to maul Ford to death.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 8:42 am
by Guest
Anonymous Fish wrote:What? Nobody dies in this game? That sucks. Not even Ford? Can't Woofio kill him? Maybe that's a DLC scene. I want Woofio to maul Ford to death.
You are not even remotely funny.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 10:00 am
by princesszelda
Anonymous Fish wrote:No character in this game would die of old age, right? When it happened in the last SOS I didn't really want to play the game much
For some reason I was much more affected by the death of Nina in AWL/AnWL than I was by SoS.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 10:02 am
by Starrynight28
princesszelda wrote:
Anonymous Fish wrote:No character in this game would die of old age, right? When it happened in the last SOS I didn't really want to play the game much
For some reason I was much more affected by the death of Nina in AWL/AnWL than I was by SoS.
Nina destroyed me...

The sad music that is played in her house afterwards and how sad Galen is...

Gawd

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 10:33 am
by princesszelda
Starrynight28 wrote:
princesszelda wrote:
Anonymous Fish wrote:No character in this game would die of old age, right? When it happened in the last SOS I didn't really want to play the game much
For some reason I was much more affected by the death of Nina in AWL/AnWL than I was by SoS.
Nina destroyed me...

The sad music that is played in her house afterwards and how sad Galen is...

Gawd
Yeah, exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall any of the characters being significantly affected by Eda's death in SoS.

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 10:38 am
by Starrynight28
Nah, no one really cared about Eda's death after the initial scene.

You never even met her grandkid. I think it would have been cool if her grandson had been a bachelor and moved in after she died

Re: Nobody dies in this game,right?

Posted: Mar 03, 2017 10:46 am
by Shan O 123
princesszelda wrote:
Starrynight28 wrote:
princesszelda wrote:
Anonymous Fish wrote:No character in this game would die of old age, right? When it happened in the last SOS I didn't really want to play the game much
For some reason I was much more affected by the death of Nina in AWL/AnWL than I was by SoS.
Nina destroyed me...

The sad music that is played in her house afterwards and how sad Galen is...

Gawd
Yeah, exactly. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't recall any of the characters being significantly affected by Eda's death in SoS.
Nope. Nobody cared. Which is a shame.