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Starrynight28 wrote:Ah, thank you!! I guess I'll just buckle up for the long wait...

cinnamon_yuki wrote:Someone posted this in gamefaqs.

Spoiler:

This information comes based of the japanese guidebook which says
350 points for D
150 points for C
200 points for B
200 points for A
100 points for S


With a neutral personality using only treats.

E - D will take 35 days
D - C will take 15 days
C - B will take 20 days
B - A will take 20 days
A - S will take 10 days.

Total 100 days

With a neutral personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 18 days
D - C will take 7 days
C - B will take 10 days
B - A will take 10 days
A - S will take 5 days.

Total 50 days

For byproduct lvl

With active personality using only treats

E - D will take 24 days
D - C will take 10 days
C - B will take 13 days
B - A will take 13 days
A - S will take 7 days

Total 67 days

With active personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 14 days
D - C will take 6 days
C - B will take 8 days
B - A will take 8 days
A - S will take 4 days

Total 40 days

Now for coat

With gentle personality using only treats

E - D will take 30 days
D - C will take 12 days
C - B will take 17 days
B - A will take 16 days
A - S will take 9 days

Total 84 days

With gentle personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 16 days
D - C will take 7 days
C - B will take 9 days
B - A will take 9 days
A - S will take 5 days

Total 46 days

Shan O 123 wrote:

cinnamon_yuki wrote:Someone posted this in gamefaqs.

Spoiler:

This information comes based of the japanese guidebook which says
350 points for D
150 points for C
200 points for B
200 points for A
100 points for S


With a neutral personality using only treats.

E - D will take 35 days
D - C will take 15 days
C - B will take 20 days
B - A will take 20 days
A - S will take 10 days.

Total 100 days

With a neutral personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 18 days
D - C will take 7 days
C - B will take 10 days
B - A will take 10 days
A - S will take 5 days.

Total 50 days

For byproduct lvl

With active personality using only treats

E - D will take 24 days
D - C will take 10 days
C - B will take 13 days
B - A will take 13 days
A - S will take 7 days

Total 67 days

With active personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 14 days
D - C will take 6 days
C - B will take 8 days
B - A will take 8 days
A - S will take 4 days

Total 40 days

Now for coat

With gentle personality using only treats

E - D will take 30 days
D - C will take 12 days
C - B will take 17 days
B - A will take 16 days
A - S will take 9 days

Total 84 days

With gentle personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 16 days
D - C will take 7 days
C - B will take 9 days
B - A will take 9 days
A - S will take 5 days

Total 46 days

Is this for the other treats as well?

cinnamon_yuki wrote:

Shan O 123 wrote:

cinnamon_yuki wrote:Someone posted this in gamefaqs.

Spoiler:

This information comes based of the japanese guidebook which says
350 points for D
150 points for C
200 points for B
200 points for A
100 points for S


With a neutral personality using only treats.

E - D will take 35 days
D - C will take 15 days
C - B will take 20 days
B - A will take 20 days
A - S will take 10 days.

Total 100 days

With a neutral personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 18 days
D - C will take 7 days
C - B will take 10 days
B - A will take 10 days
A - S will take 5 days.

Total 50 days

For byproduct lvl

With active personality using only treats

E - D will take 24 days
D - C will take 10 days
C - B will take 13 days
B - A will take 13 days
A - S will take 7 days

Total 67 days

With active personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 14 days
D - C will take 6 days
C - B will take 8 days
B - A will take 8 days
A - S will take 4 days

Total 40 days

Now for coat

With gentle personality using only treats

E - D will take 30 days
D - C will take 12 days
C - B will take 17 days
B - A will take 16 days
A - S will take 9 days

Total 84 days

With gentle personality using both treats and feed

E - D will take 16 days
D - C will take 7 days
C - B will take 9 days
B - A will take 9 days
A - S will take 5 days

Total 46 days

Is this for the other treats as well?

I believe this will work with other treats. The poster at Gamefaqs didn't specify any treats since different treat has different effects. I asked if he/she is using the Perfect Guide since I have the kindle version of it, will try to locate once it's downloaded. The file is huge around 551MB.

xhia wrote:On that note, does coat lv affects anything aside from festival?
My sheep byproduct lv is B, however it only gives me around 1-3 wool+ from 20 wool.
from what I've noticed is that
D - 1 wool+ max
C - 2 wool+ max
B - 3 wool+ max
><" I remember seeing that it should come the byproduct lv should affect the plus product by percentage or is this the right one?

Thank you!

Arcy wrote:

xhia wrote:On that note, does coat lv affects anything aside from festival?
My sheep byproduct lv is B, however it only gives me around 1-3 wool+ from 20 wool.
from what I've noticed is that
D - 1 wool+ max
C - 2 wool+ max
B - 3 wool+ max
><" I remember seeing that it should come the byproduct lv should affect the plus product by percentage or is this the right one?

Thank you!

It is absolutely a flat percentage applied to each item as the stack is laid/milked/shorn from the animal.

It can be savescummed. Coop animals by saving before you sleep at night, milk and woolies types by saving right before you milk/sheer them

I've done further testing now that I have Unlimited Gratin Power to actually have time to care for more animals and you can get more than 1 at a time at D Rank. I'm not sure exactly what the flat percentage rate is for D Rank, but it seems to be around a 5% chance. I think it is more important to increase Byproduct Amount first before increasing Byproduct Level because of this.

Still like the Active personality trait best though.

xhia wrote:Byproduct is maxed already.

So let's say at A rank it's 50% chance:
50% x 20 = 10.

Meaning, at A rank you can get 0-10 wool+ from 20 wools.
The 0-10 plus product can be savescummed to get the amount you desired. but 10 will be the maximum amount at A rank; and it IS possible to get 0 plus product, even at A rank.

Is that correct?

That means at S rank you will always get 20 plus products?

Arcy wrote:

xhia wrote:Byproduct is maxed already.

So let's say at A rank it's 50% chance:
50% x 20 = 10.

Meaning, at A rank you can get 0-10 wool+ from 20 wools.
The 0-10 plus product can be savescummed to get the amount you desired. but 10 will be the maximum amount at A rank; and it IS possible to get 0 plus product, even at A rank.

Is that correct?

No, at Ranks D-A, you're not often going to see an even split regardless of the theoretical percentage. Each item in the stack of up to 20 will be hit with the RNG fairy when it is harvested, meaning that you will see a wide variety of different "splits" at different levels. It is very rare for my A Rank animals to go evenly 10 Normal/10 Plus, though it has happened sometimes. Sometimes I only get 5 Plus, sometimes I get 15. It is all luck, but the average over time at A Rank should be roughly half and half, unless you're very unlucky or very lucky.

Basically, the game rolls a die (dice) or flips a coin (if you prefer that analogy) for every single item produced, not the full stack all at once. Then it adds up the total of all the rolls and gives the items to you in a "stack", one harvest. Coop animals are the exception as they lay two "stacks" of items every morning as soon as you wake up. If they don't "roll" any Plus items, then they only lay one "stack" of Normal eggs.

The only exceptions are E Rank (0% Chance, so all items in the "stack" will be Normal) and S Rank (100% Chance, so all items in the "stack" will be Plus).

That means at S rank you will always get 20 plus products?

Yep!