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Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 4:03 am
by Guest
So I was watching Kasumi's events on youtube (so cute btw!) and found some interesting things I'd like to ask about:
In Kasumi's pink event, she refers to Inari as a male and Inari doesn't comment or correct her on it. It's even more interesting since this is a male file so I assumed Inari would be female? Does that make Inari canonly male?
In Kasumi's married Star Festival dialogue, she says (paraphrasing) she was in an arranged marriage until Shizu intervened and stopped it from happening. It might be a far stretch but like...was Kasumi getting engaged to Ittetsu? She didn't mention in the dialogue that she didn't like him or he was a bad person and therefore Shizu helped her, all she said was she hoped he was a good person but "in the end, Shizu stepped in".

Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 4:23 am
by The Ninja
For your first question, I'm guessing that in Tsuyukusa mythology Inari is referred to as a male. They have no canon gender, although an article in Famitsu states that Inari's gender changes based on which MC you choose; they aren't genderless. So I guess Inari has a canon gender but doesn't at the same time, if that makes sense?
I was actually thinking about your second question a few days ago. Want to make it even more complicated? Kasumi has a line stating it was her governess who got her out of the arranged marriage instead of Shizu. Does that mean Shizu is Kasumi's governess? It can't be, since Kasumi and her governess had known each other for an incredibly long time, yet Shizu recalls the first time she met Kasumi was when she already moved to Tsuyukusa.
I'm honestly pretty sure it was just a slip-up by either the writers or translators. Choose whichever explanation for her getting out of the arranged marriage that you like better, I guess.
Hope this helps!
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 5:28 am
by Guest
For Inari, I guess that makes sense. Still, wouldn't this piece of text (Inari not denying they are male) contradict itself if you saw this event-> broke up with Kasumi -> married Inari? (I mean no one would do that tbh because how can you break Kasumi's heart after getting that far?). Does Inari's gender get mentioned anywhere outside this event?
Also about Kasumi...that is pretty weird. Shizu doesn't look old enough to be Kasumi's governess anyway. Could it be that her governess stopped the arranged marriage and Ittetsu fell in love with Shizu in Tsuyukusa? Is there any way we can piece together all the stuff that's said in game and still have it make sense?
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 5:36 am
by The Ninja
I doubt they planned ahead that far. In general they don't adjust any of the events for other candidates if you break up with them and date someone else. Like how Siluka can confess to you right after breaking up with Iluka, for example. Inari probably didn't bother correcting Kasumi since it wasn't really that important since they are a deity anyway. Or the writers just forgot. That's a possibility too.
I think it'd be hard to piece together Kasumi's backstory as a whole. A lot of it is up to interpretation (example, her negative experiences with men) and doesn't really go into detail so idk.
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 5:53 am
by Guest
Yeah, I think your explanations are probably right. The curious part of me still really wants to know Kasumi's full backstory though. I think she has the most complicated one out of all the marriage candidates (most of them are pretty straightforward) so it's pretty mysterious.
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 7:36 am
by princesszelda
Anonymous Fish wrote:Yeah, I think your explanations are probably right. The curious part of me still really wants to know Kasumi's full backstory though. I think she has the most complicated one out of all the marriage candidates (most of them are pretty straightforward) so it's pretty mysterious.
It's sometimes nice when things are left open to interpretation - you can fill in the back story with whatever you want it to look like. I'm finally playing a male file and I can't wait to start wooing Kasumi, I had no idea about so much of her backstory while playing as a female.
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 9:36 am
by MageDragonfire
I would not expect that Ittetsu was at all involved in Kasumi's life before she came to Tsuyukusa, tbh. Shizu and Ittetsu were introduced through a professional matchmaker, and I expect that if there was some kind of arranged marriage already planned for Ittetsu, the matchmaker wouldn't have been in the picture.
Chalk it up to a mistake or something that got changed halfway through dev, I s'pose.
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 20, 2017 11:56 am
by astro-demon
The governess stopped her arranged marriage by suggesting she take over the school the governess ran. The line with shizu was a mistake, or maybe there was a second betrothal and Shizu stood up for her or something and got her parents to back down. There is no way that Kasumi would have been matched with Ittetsu, Kasumi and Shizu met in Tsuyukusa and Shizu and Ittetsu married before coming there. Also there is an age difference between them.
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 21, 2017 10:10 pm
by Guest
The way I see it is that if Kasumi had stayed at home instead of becoming a teacher she would be inevitably be married off through an arranged marriage. Her governess sending her to her school was an attempt to stop this, but it didn't stop the arranged marriage attempt that came later.
That one was stopped by Shizu. So Kasumi was saved from an arranged marriage on two separate occasions.
Re: Kasumi Questions
Posted: Jul 22, 2017 12:00 am
by Guest
In which part of her dialogue that Shizu came into Kasumi's life to begin with? I played the japanese version and married her but this is definitely the first time I heard anything about Shizu being her governess. If anyone can give me either word to word quote or even better pointing to which format in text dump she mentions about this, I can check the japanese text dump to see if it appears there as well.
My coin lies on either translation hiccup or flavor addition, like how Iluka says about Ludus' father who passed away, when in fact it was his grandfather or Ludus saying about why you would even spend time with him, which completely doesn't exist otherwise in the japanese version.