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Re: Is this game worth buying?

Posted: Jul 29, 2017 1:56 pm
by ChaosAzerothCat
Kikki wrote:I think farm customization is the least fun in Trio of any of the (recent) bokumono games. I liked being able to build everything myself, for one, rather than go to Ludus for every little thing (not just making the fields of soil but even attaching bait!) But the area where you can place things is only in the centre where you'd put field crops and it looks weird to me to place anything decorative.

I also miss being able to customize the house in individual pieces. Choosing an entire style to change...the styles aren't bad but I liked having customization more in my own hands.

I've also run out of things to do sooner in Trio than in the two previous games, so I feel that later-game playing goals are weak in Trio. Or maybe it's just too easy to get all the main goals done. I always seem to be finished everything by end end of Year 2 and aiming for achievements that have no effect on anything in the game really isn't of interest to me. (It'd be a different story if achievements rewarded you with an event, new dialogue from villagers, landscape upgrades, statues, or SOMETHING...but just seeing an achievement flash as a text alert on your screen for two seconds isn't something I can make goal out of.)

EDIT: Trio is really strong on the social aspects but I found it more tedious for farming. I hate the four different fertilizers and the bazillion types of treat you have to feed animals to increase all their stats. I've heard people say they like that the Trio treats system is LESS complicated than SoS', but that leaves me baffled as I find it way MORE complicated in Trio. So I guess you could say that overall I enjoy the characters and socializing more in Trio, but I enjoy the actual farming less.

EDIT 2: Fishing is way more enjoyable in Trio when it come to how it works...one press of the button and the fish is caught, no hand-cramping flurry of A-button mashing for thirty seconds just to land a big one. But I still miss ANB when it comes to how desirable fishing is, because being able to fish up lost recipes and blueprint fragments was a major incentive to me that made me actually WANT to do it.
I find Trio's crops a bit more overwhelming with the fertilizers, thankfully I'm a pen and paper nerd and taking notes is a stim of mine. x3

IDK about simpler treat system than SoS, almost wonder if they're thinking of another game? I know ToTT treats was TERRIBLE. I forget how bad ANB one was actually... Hmm... But anyway, I like it well enough.

The sad thing is, if SoS didn't have such bad time unlocks in some cases and last two vendors giving me such burnout I'd probably prefer SoS to Trio. I don't like earning gold crops to have them die with nothing I can do but wait for the blueprint, and either not have the best tool until it doesn't matter or burn myself out trying. It'd have been better if the tools weren't in the last 2 vendors but clothing blueprints instead...

This game is fun for me, but I definitely see where you're coming from!

Re: Is this game worth buying?

Posted: Jul 31, 2017 3:45 am
by Kikki
ChaosAzerothCat wrote:This game is fun for me, but I definitely see where you're coming from!
Thanks; though...I wasn't complaining or saying the game wasn't fun for me or anything like that. The OP specifically asked to hear things we didn't like about the game after people had given a bunch of their likes, so I did :) ALL BM games will have aspects you like and aspects you don't like...I was just listing out stuff that made me enjoy the game less as opposed to more.

ANB is still my favourite. I played to Year 4 in that one and was still having fun because there were still things I wanted to do, and that right there pretty much sums up how I rank my BM games...by how long they make me want to play. In that way, I've found Trio the weakest of the three most recent games, because I get bored with playing it the soonest. Even though the characters are way better and have more dialogue, if you talk to them a lot, then by late year 2, no one has anything new to say, so the novelty of the great characters has worn off. (For me, anyway.)

I think Trio is the highest quality BM game I've played and will be a favourite for the highest amount of people...it's just not my favourite. But I will continue to play every BM game as soon as it comes out, do every little thing the game offers, and hope to one day see ANB unseated as king of BM games (in my kingdom, that is... I know most people didn't like ANB. I guess my priorities/what I find fun is just a little off to the side of most others or something.)

Sanjay also remains my favourite bokumono spouse ever. Will look forward to Bokumono Switch to see if it can break all of my personal ANB records, because for better or worse, A New Beginning is my watershed game. Trio didn't manage that, but for anyone who is asking if Trio is worth buying, I'd definitely say it is. I think it's the most crowd-pleasing of all the recent BM games. It lacks in really notable flaws such as the freakish, unlikable characters of ANB and the horrible grind of SoS' final two vendors. Trio is a game where almost everything is good or even great, and nothing is teeth-grindingly bad.

Re: Is this game worth buying?

Posted: Jul 31, 2017 5:28 am
by Celestrian
There isn't nearly enough room for farm customization and I thought it was odd that all the fertilizers had to be placed outside. Like....there should have been some sort of basement where you can put all of those.

Re: Is this game worth buying?

Posted: Jul 31, 2017 6:56 am
by Kikki
Celestrian wrote:There isn't nearly enough room for farm customization and I thought it was odd that all the fertilizers had to be placed outside. Like....there should have been some sort of basement where you can put all of those.
I totally agree on the customization. Totally. Only the central area of each screen is customizable with a LARGE untouchable area all around it. And why would I want to place a farm entry archway in the middle of the landscape? Though customization of the farm is not my top priority, it would have been nice to be able to decorate in a way that actually looked good rather than unnatural. Though I guess now that I barely need to grow any crops at all or can move them all to the basement, I could dedicate a lot of space to decorations and maybe make it look good? But when you need that land for farming, decorations are pretty hard to include in any way that looks good, in Trio, imo.

But I don't understand the fertilizer bit. You have to place fertilizers outside? I store mine in the storage chest in my house if I have more than I want carry around with me for daily fertilization. (Though I wish I could have kept them in the toolbox instead, like I believe you could in SoS. The toolbox really went to waste in Trio. It did for me, anyway.)

Not really connected but this comment somehow made me think of it...I wish the basement unlocked a little earlier, as by the time I get it, I barely need to farm at all any more since there are no more requirements to meet and most crops are already maxed.

(A bit off-topic but I was reminded by talk of basements: I'd also love if we could buy an irrigation system for the basement in particular, though any part of the farm could benefit. You could auto-water everything or load it with water every seven days or something, and maybe even add fertilizer to it. Nobody waters a large farm's crops by hand, y'know, they all have irrigation or sprinkler systems or etc. It could be really expensive or difficult to build if they don't want a perk like that to be too easily accessible...)

Re: Is this game worth buying?

Posted: Jul 31, 2017 11:18 am
by Anna_Lynn
My long list of small complaints and cons:
Spoiler:
-Not a big deal, but I miss the Mario mystery seed bags. The outfits don't really do it for me.
-A very quirky upgraded cast compared to the rustic, humble people of Oak Tree town. The villagers in SOS, especially the marriage candidates, felt more realistic to me. However, I like the extra friend events and backstory that each character gets in 3oT.
-The watering can upgrades can be wonky at times. My 5x5 can turn into a 3x4 if I'm not angled correctly. But it's a lot faster than having to walk while watering, like in SOS.
-There's no way to see what fertilizer stats your crops have once you plant them. Not the end of the world, but I kind of wish they'd make a tool for that; maybe a magnifying glass or something.
-Festival prizes can be such a pain to get. There's so many!
-I'm indifferent towards the customization. It's a bummer that you can't fully customize everything, but I don't really mind, or notice for that matter.
-Multiplayer is blah, and it doesn't help that region lock is a thing. I wish there was a sort of mini game feature... that could be fun. But just giving fodder, weeds, or cheap crops for the exchange of mediocre jam, tapioca, and the like is not worth it, imo.
-Once you beat the game, you uh... beat the game. Unless you hoard trophies, you might stop playing by year three. This always happened to me in past games, so I got married asap in this one. Sadly, there's not a lot of things that are worth doing once villagers are FP maxed, all towns at S, and dad's challenges are finished.
-Fishing isn't that fun or rewarding at all. I miss diving... oh how I would have loved to swim in Lulukoko's ocean while wearing a bikini.
-There's not a lot to explore. No mountain, no forest, no travel agency, you get the gist. At first I was glad to have everything so jam-packed together and nearby. Then I realized how much I missed all the open nature that each game had, even if it was a waste of my time foraging the cheap stuff in the trees.
-I'm still confused at my pets. The ones that forage items never seem to do their job correctly at 17:00. Only once in a blue moon will I actually get something. Plus, you can't enter buildings with them, so that's a waste.
-Friendship is too easy to raise. I'm tired of everyone being all like "You're my closest friend of all time, I like you a lot!" when the only things I ever did was: win 5+ festivals, talk to them twice, and maybe give them a flower on flower day. Take Witchie for example; I never take the time in my schedule to talk with her, yet *BAM* max friendship by year two just from winning festivals.
-Part time jobs are very tedious to do. Item delivery jobs are more interesting, since I get to actually do manual work to earn a reward. Otherwise, it's just pressing/holding A, or praying that you have 30+ fish saved up for shipping jobs.
Stupid auto-correct. Sorry if anything was misspelled.

Re: Is this game worth buying?

Posted: Aug 01, 2017 11:40 pm
by Celestrian
@Kikki: Well shows you what I know. I thought I couldn't place them inside. Haha