Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom (Mostly spoiler-free)

Bluie · Post Posted: Jun 06, 2023 5:27 am

Mikodesu wrote: ↑Jun 03, 2023 7:53 pm
If item duping is completely patched out I may have to Google some money making tricks, it's just absurd how much money the game demands you have... why do you even have shops, Nintendo, if there's no easy way to make enough money to afford anything in them?!

I might be able to help a bit here, because there are two good money making methods accessible in the game, but one is a (as of yet) unpatched dupe glitch that is a bit of pain to pull off while the other requires amiibos.

With the dupe glitch, it involves a certain cave that stops your arrows from traveling and will dupe whatever it attached to them. Google 'cave arrow duplication glitch' for more specifics.

For the Amiibo one, it requires a lot of them. Between my husband and I, we have over 20 of them (plus the cards and coins from official and unofficial sources). Each amiibo, LoZ related or not, will drop a random assortment of cooking materials - and its usually meat and herbs. The meat is they key here. Spawn your amiibo drops in a cold area and let the meat freeze. Carry your frozen meat stash to Beedle and make gobs or Rupees. This is how I was making money before the orginal dupe glitch. My husband doesn't want to bother with the arrow cave, so he currently has all our Amiibos hostage lol.

Alternatively, you could do this by hunting wolves as they almost always drop meat of higher quality. Unlock the radar on the Pura Pad, take a pic of a wolf, and then proceed to put them into extinction until the next Blood Moon. Then take the meat into a cold area and drop it on the ground until it freezes. Return to Beedle for profit. A little more time consuming, but still works.

Side note: the Wolf Link amiibo gives an absolute crapton of meat when scanned. If you at the very least have that one, it'll speed up the process quite a bit.

Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 06, 2023 6:05 am

Bluie wrote: ↑Jun 06, 2023 5:27 am The meat is they key here. Spawn your amiibo drops in a cold area and let the meat freeze. Carry your frozen meat stash to Beedle and make gobs or Rupees. This is how I was making money before the orginal dupe glitch. My husband doesn't want to bother with the arrow cave, so he currently has all our Amiibos hostage lol.

This is so simple I'm sure you're already doing it, but my sister hogs my amiibos (not just the figures, but also the ACNH amiibo cards) all the time now (and when BotW was new) because she wants to scan them every day and it's too much of a hassle to take them off my figurine shelves one by one. I decided to take the tray of one of her 24-packs of Coke and place all of my figures and stacks of cards into it so that we can more easily share. I pick up the tray full of amiibos and take it to my spot to do my scanning, putting each one back as I go, and then I just have to set the tray back where my sister plays and there are no grumbles or pouty frowns or big sighs going on in our house any more. At least not over amiibos...

Can't really call that a tip, but it certainly did make it much easier to share. A cookie sheet you don't need to use works well to contain a few dozen amiibos, too. Any tray-like thing with a lip around the outside to make them quickly portable. I have...I guess about 18 amiibo figures (almost all of them LoZ ones) and somewhere around 100-150 cards (I have tiny sets of cheater cards in wee plastic cubes that I couldn't resist because they were so cute, but they actually WORK), so racking up the meat inventory is easy, but they're a hassle to move around without a tray.

Though I just cook 5 meats into a skewer and sell those. Is frozen meat more valuable? It'd be a bit faster, anyway...no need to cook. Will have to check the selling price! Will scan my stuff in a frozen area next time and see how it goes.

Bluie · Post Posted: Jun 06, 2023 6:40 am

That tray idea is really helpful and cute. Thankfully now that I've 'finished' the game (and still have a sizeable stash of rupees from all my diamond duping), he can keep most of them no problem. There's just a few I need every so often so I'll pluck them and replace them as needed.

And I think they nerfed the cooked meat from the previous game. I did a round of cooking all the meat and I'm 90% sure I made less than a stash of frozen. It probably depends on what kind of meat too. I could be wrong though but yes, it is quicker to just unload it all on Beedle instead of cooking. Experiment I guess? XD

Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 06, 2023 7:41 am

So I went and tested it. One raw base level meat is worth 8 rupees. Cooked into a meat skewer with just one meat, it is worth 9 rupees. But one meat skewer made with the max of five base level meats, is worth 72 rupees, making each piece of meat worth, uh...14 rupees plus a tiny bit. One FROZEN base level meats is worth 15 rupees, which adds up to 75 for five of them. So it's worth 3 rupees more than a meat skewer of five meats, which isn't worthwhile in itself, imo, except that it's also FASTER to just let your meat freeze than to cook it all into skewers, so it's very slightly better in price but notably better in speed. I can only get my meat to freeze in the very coldest regions, though, and only at night...has to be the absolute depths of chill on the temperature meter to get the meat to freeze.

Though I sold to a shop owner, not Beedle, so I don't know if maybe he has higher prices. I think all prices are the same, though. Beedle keeps plotting to assassinate Link to get the beetles in my inventory for himself, so I don't like to talk to him, lol.

ACNH cards seem to give mostly flowers/herbs/mushrooms, but less meat. Got two more sailcloths while trying to collect meat today, though; this game is really in love with sailcloths. Or glider cloths, whatever I should call them. I got some as a reward for two different major questlines...what a letdown! Since I don't care about glider cloths, they're not a very inspiring reward for large, tedious questlines. Same for the labyrinths. The treasure you can get from finishing each set is something I don't even want...

But treasure in this game is a letdown in general, I find. So many zonai charges and lackluster weapons in major chests, and so much sailcloth at the end of big quests. The gameplay definitely makes this game; I enjoyed opening chests a lot more in BotW. So it's the doing that's the fun part. THe rewards you get for the doing aren't worthwhile in themselves, I haven't found.

I think experimenting with meat is the only thing I can do in the game today. Arm working funny and doesn't want me to play. Hmph.

Mikodesu · Post Posted: Jun 06, 2023 8:37 pm

Bluie wrote: ↑Jun 06, 2023 5:27 am
Mikodesu wrote: ↑Jun 03, 2023 7:53 pm
If item duping is completely patched out I may have to Google some money making tricks, it's just absurd how much money the game demands you have... why do you even have shops, Nintendo, if there's no easy way to make enough money to afford anything in them?!
I might be able to help a bit here, because there are two good money making methods accessible in the game, but one is a (as of yet) unpatched dupe glitch that is a bit of pain to pull off while the other requires amiibos.

With the dupe glitch, it involves a certain cave that stops your arrows from traveling and will dupe whatever it attached to them. Google 'cave arrow duplication glitch' for more specifics.

Whelp. I'll havta spend some more time looking into the cave arrow thing, could be very useful. (I have zero amiibo, so I'm out on that end.) Might try hunting wolves a bit too, I've got radar + unlocked, probably worth it to just go buy the picture from Robbie, rather than hunting any down. Either that or I do circles around Death Mountain every blood moon gem hunting. Not sure what's the better profit. Appreciate the ideas, though!!

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Pretty boring gameplay today... Mostly camp clearing, though I did get another cute piece of amiibo armor in the process. I've wanted to go to...I'd call it the castle in the sky, cause that's what it looks like from below. Kinda like the upper part of Forsaken Fortress, even. And...

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Curious question for anybody deep into the ultrahand/building side of the game...

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Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 07, 2023 2:58 am

Mikodesu wrote: ↑Jun 06, 2023 8:37 pm
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ANY idea what the blueprint for a "sprinkler" would be for? I guess crossing lava is something but, even then...why call it a sprinkler? If there's a big fire I don't know about that's in any way story related...don't answer me.

It's not story-related at all, afaik, and I haven't done it myself, but apparently in this game you can

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My sister did it but I didn't really pay attention so I don't know any more than that; haven't verified that it's true in my own game, but she did outright tell me it could be done and details about how that I must admit I didn't really listen to, lol. Perhaps that's what it's for? But I have no idea, tbh; I don't know if that feature even has has that much depth. I figure it's something simpler than that. I really should finally go check it out.

But if that's not it, I can't guess what it'd be for. I don't have that one yet.

EDIT: Did you guys know that dazzlefruits seem to insta-kill stal monsters? Low level ones like bokoblins and moblins. One arrow with dazzlefruit and I was taking out 3-4 stal monsters in one shot. I don't quite get it...

greensara · Post Posted: Jun 07, 2023 4:51 am

I can confirm what your sister said, Kikki.

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I just discovered it last time I played and was pleasantly surprised. Would not have suspected the trigger.

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Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 07, 2023 5:14 am

Thanks greensara

I went and did it this morning since I had basically forgotten about it until Mikodesu mentioned that pattern (that I don't yet have. I think? Dang, now I need to go check what I DO have, maybe it's in there!)

EDIT: Took out my question. The answer was 'yes you can', lol. Doesn't seem to be a spoiler, but won't talk about it anyway, just in case.

Mikodesu · Post Posted: Jun 07, 2023 7:58 pm

Thanks for answering my quesiton, Kikki!

Good to know a bit more, thank you also greensara. Looks like I've got something else to work on!

To that end I actually did quite a bit of questing today. It was an off and on busy out of the house all day kind of day, so I played off and on throughout the day. Finished up stuff to do in Lurelin, worked on quests in Hateno. Nice and easy going stuff that I could pick up/put down easily. It's fun to use that as the chance to run around in a goofy outfit you haven't upgraded at all.

TONIGHT I went back to the depths. I found something ELSE I shouldn't be able to do anything with yet. Except I'm fairly sure there IS a way to break it, from how a streamer I follow who's playing off stream has talked.

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Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 07, 2023 8:20 pm

No problem, Mikodesu.

Sounds like it wasn't the answer to your question, though! Doesn't seem like your schema could be used for that.

I finished getting aaaaaall the lightroots, woot! Some of them were very tricky little buggers in awful placement that you could only get to one small and narrow way...very hard to find in the dark! Even when you know where you should be looking, depending on where you are, it's often impossible to see it.

Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 09, 2023 5:33 pm

Okay, did the water temple. The companions aren't programmed well, imo, particularly the latter two (if you go in recommended order, that is.) They're not there when you need them, and when you don't, they're getting in your way, blocking your view, etc. Boss of water temple was...something, lol.

I've also cleared the final of the four main regional phenomena spots just now, but left it before the boss battle. I think I could have taken it on right there, but I have to finish more shrines first. I just finished #100, so I've got a lot to go! I've lumped them into categories and am going to tackle everything of a certain category at once, starting now.

I figure I'll complete the game next week, and then I'll have possibly months afterward, cleaning up anything that may unlock 'post-game' (even though this game doesn't actually work like that) since I know there's at least one thing, as well as quests. That's all just fun stuff, so I'll have something enjoyable to do for ages, but I feel like FINISHING the main game, now, so...not gonna try to wrap all the little stuff up in advance. I have great armor, weapons and food, and I'm finally on my second row of hearts, so I feel like I can probably take on the end now, if I wanna. And I do...after the shrines.

Gotta eat the meat and veggies before I get to dessert.

Also, I'd like to move on to other games and just have Tears as a fun game to fall back on rather than continue to be the main (only!) one for more than a month.

Mikodesu · Post Posted: Jun 09, 2023 9:17 pm

Yeeah...companions are...a good attempt at something, I feel like. But they feel kinda like a rough draft. I wish Nintendo would refine old ideas instead of coming up with entirely new ones every time, because we end up with a lot of stuff like this when they do.

Today was a particularly miserable day, so I played a LOT tonight to sedate myself.

Spent most of the night in the depths again, I'm over 100 lightroots now. Had some interesting encounters, though. I've kinda figured out that most of my anxiety in the depths is being afraid of being killed and having my time wasted, which is entirely resolved by having the travel medallion. I plop one down ever so often as I go, and hardly need to use light seeds anymore. It's great!

Except when you're forced to cross a big...open, empty plain...to get to a lightroot.

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Another thing I did tonight, I had spoiled for me early on and got pulled into as I was trying to go around...

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Oh! And yesterday I was trying to find more ways into the depths and ended up somewhere a bit unexpected.

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Surprised how easy it was to get around, and how many koroks there are there! More nostalgia, figuring out how to get around and what cutscenes were where and if I could remember how to get places.

Still haven't done more story.

Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 10, 2023 2:54 am

It's funny though; when I went to look for a way to turn the companions off, I encountered discussions, and people are incensed about the wind sage blowing their items away all the time. I didn't even know that was a thing! It has never happened to me. Also, I never use them in battle (except their own battle) so any help they give is incidental and just a nice little bonus, so that part doesn't really bother me. I seem to actually be considerably less annoyed by them than most. I don't find them to be a bother most of the time, I just get annoyed when they get in my face and block my view.

Oh well, at least I did find a way to turn them off. But it would have been nice if their abilities were set to a ring like the others. There are functions that are not well mapped and could be reorganized or done entirely without, but a deliberate command to bring up a sage ability would be really useful. I'd be inclined to map it to the right shoulder button, the reverse of your Rauru abilities.

K8sMum · Post Posted: Jun 10, 2023 8:42 am

Does anyone know anything about the Hyrule Compendium? Mine is completely blank. Is there something I need to do to start it?

Kikki · Post Posted: Jun 10, 2023 9:03 am

Robbie's quests unlock that. You've got to get him to go to Hateno by completing any quests that come before, with Impa and Purah and Josha and whoever, then buy one image off of him. (You don't get to choose, as far as I know...you can choose a category but what you get within that will be random.)

EDIT: Oh, and I figure this isn't necessary to say, but you do have to take a picture of a thing to get it added to your compendium. Enemies, weapons, ingredients, etc.