Milo wrote: ↑Oct 26, 2025 8:21 am
Kikki wrote: ↑Oct 26, 2025 6:27 amI like to collect, and I think some of the Pokemon are really spiffy. (I also think some are super ugly, so it all sort of balances out to neutral, I guess.)
Well, there's literally hundreds of the things. It'd be surprising if there weren't any duds among those.
I think a FEW Pokemon are really spiffy and quite a lot of them are unappealing. I was being a bit generous when I said it 'all works out to neutral' for me. I was just making the point that
overall, I neither hate nor love Pokemon. The franchise, or the individual creatures.
Milo wrote: ↑Oct 26, 2025 8:21 am
Kikki wrote: ↑Oct 26, 2025 6:27 amThe idea of evolving is cool.
That's where I'm going to disagree with you. Unevolved Pokemon are almost always cuter than their evolutions, and I hate having to choose between using the ones I actually like versus playing the game sensibly and optimizing my stats. Also, it's a serious misuse of the scientific term "evolution".
I said "the IDEA of evolving is cool". I didn't say that Pokemon's reality of evolving is ideal, or anything else. Just the idea, is all I said. Though sometimes I
do quite like evolved versions. Naturally the 'baby' form of a Pokemon is
usually going to be cuter
(Though not always. Floette is way cuter than Flabebe, in my books. Just one example.) especially for big honking ugly monster-looking Pokemon, but I prefer 'beautiful' and 'handsome/attractive/cool' Pokemon to cute ones, for the most part. But some are SO cute that it's more fun if they stay baby.
I don't care about the misuse of the scientific term evolution.
Bluie wrote: ↑Oct 26, 2025 9:16 am
Kikki wrote: ↑Oct 26, 2025 6:27 am
I don't think I'm seeing any cheeto-fingered mouth-breathers. No doubt those people exist, but...I don't think the stuff I've seen qualifies. Just sad people whose Pokemon needs aren't being met, game-wise, and who keep hoping they eventually will be and bursting with disappointment each time they are not.
Reddit, Gematsu, and Twitter say 'Hi'.
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However, I will say this: the ball is in Game Freak's court right now. Generation 10 is around the corner and we have a brand new gaming system for it to be home on. If they don't innovate to their full potential this time around, it's going to be disappointing regardless of how much of a fan people are or aren't are. While I have fun with these games, of course they can be better! They SHOULD be better! I'm just tired of enjoying myself regardless and having the 'DURR HURR, SLOP ENJOYER!' idiots breathing down my neck about it.
Yeah, I am never on Instagram or Twitter. Deleted my Twitter entirely when whatsisface (weirdo rich man with creepy name) took it over, as it was a nasty place BEFORE that and just went turbo on the ugliness after he splotched onto the scene with all his great ideas for "X". I only have an Instagram because I was going to restart my business, The Far Grove, but...I went a different path on that and now never touch it. I may have deleted it too...I can't remember. And I don't look at comments sections on Gematsu, as they are always a cesspool of armchair warriors.
I'm mostly looking at videos on YouTube (I have the comments on YouTube entirely blocked so I never see comments sections on there.) and a few articles, sans-comments-sections, all from people who are or were huge Pokemon fans.
Sad thing is, except for ONE of them, they all bought the game, in order to review it. So they're just part of the problem. And one of them did say, with some derision, that if people just keep buying these games "because they're fun", nothing is ever going to change.
Well...yeah. On one hand, being fun IS enough for lots of people, because it's not weird to buy a game for fun.
One might even say that's the point of a game. If people find it enough fun that they don't care that its production values and creativity are low, why NOT buy it? If it's too fun to resist, then...isn't it doing all it HAS to, as a game?
And if people don't care that much about all the rest, then...why should Game Freak? Why put in effort they don't have to?
On the other hand, that's what's aggravating those for whom a fun gameplay loop isn't enough. The people who need to see higher quality in both production values and creativity. I understand the feeling that Pokemon is coasting by on the bare minimum. They use the same basic idea (catching Pokemon) each time, which guarantees that it will at least be fun, but...that's it. They never put in AAA efforts, even though they're charging AAA prices and making AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA level money.
So people who buy it just based on fun are supporting Game Freak's mediocrity. So sayeth those who want more from their Pokemon games, who want Game Freak to be forced (by reduced sales) to improve.
That's what I think it's all boiling down to, and why I said I understand people who are upset with those who buy the game 'because it's fun' while ALSO perfectly understanding why someone WOULD buy a game because it is, y'know...
fun.
NEXT-DAY EDIT: All that said, I don't know what Pokemon fans WANT from the series. The ones who've grown into Pokemon critics or the ones who have remained fans. I don't think it's just about better graphics. I'm guessing...better graphics more interactive and lively worlds and more ways to interact with your Pokemon? Like being able to pet them and stuff? Just more ways to get involved in the world, with the characters, and with the Pokemon themselves. But that's something I never seem to hear. I hear complaints about what exists without the ideas of what they think SHOULD exist.
I also noticed that the critics (the ones who played it) say the combat is fun, but that it's basically 'watered down Xenoblade'. Is that a criticism? I know they're saying Xenoblade is good, but...I don't think Pokemon combat should be especially difficult, personally, since even quite little kids tend to play it. Lots of adults yeah, but still tons of children, so it can't be changed in any way that makes it less appropriate for kids. Imo, anyway.