Persona 4 Remake is pretty much confirmed at this point... XD

[venus14!]

P4 Remake is pretty much confirmed now... : https://www.siliconera.com/yuri-lowenth ... -4-remake/

[Bluie]

Whether it's confirmed or not, it's extremely obvious why Yuri isn't going to be recast.

1. He's a SAG-AFTRA employee. For those not in the know, (and this goes pretty deep the more you look into it), SAG is a company that operates in an 'all or nothing' mindset. As in, the project must ONLY use their union employees or their those in their employ cannot take on a job. Yes, really. While the upcoming remaster of another Atlus game (Raidou) has some SAG voices in it, I have zero idea if those lines were recorded before the actors joined SAG or if the game is completely voiced by SAG employees.

2. Several SAG employees have made absolute « Mr.Gourmet's shoes » of themselves on social media after they were replaced by other VAs in games. They've bullied the replacements (who are from completely different countries) for going against their 'strike' (which is basically trying to force games that included them to switch over to SAG) and belittled fans when they rightfully called them out on their « Male Cow Poopoo ». It's completely soured fans and companies alike towards the US VAs as a whole, thus damaging the entire industry.

3. Yuri is expensive. He's a VA celebrity. He can beg all he likes, but when he's attached to a controversial company AND he's expensive af, well, why the hell would Atlus go this route when they can get out of country VA to do the job instead? It's better for business. The amount of people who'd refuse to buy the game because he's not in it VS the people who don't know/give a « Cow Poopoo » is nothing.

Also, he's definitely not reprising that role after potentially leaking a game. What an incredibly idiotic thing to do.

[venus14!]

And now it is Erin Fitzgerald the Latest English Chie Voice who is talking about P4 Remake... : https://www.siliconera.com/chie-satonak ... -4-remake/



As for Yuri Lowenthal... He seems to have deleted his Post about P4R...

Whether it's confirmed or not, it's extremely obvious why Yuri isn't going to be recast.

1. He's a SAG-AFTRA employee. For those not in the know, (and this goes pretty deep the more you look into it), SAG is a company that operates in an 'all or nothing' mindset. As in, the project must ONLY use their union employees or their those in their employ cannot take on a job. Yes, really. While the upcoming remaster of another Atlus game (Raidou) has some SAG voices in it, I have zero idea if those lines were recorded before the actors joined SAG or if the game is completely voiced by SAG employees.

2. Several SAG employees have made absolute « Mr.Gourmet's shoes » of themselves on social media after they were replaced by other VAs in games. They've bullied the replacements (who are from completely different countries) for going against their 'strike' (which is basically trying to force games that included them to switch over to SAG) and belittled fans when they rightfully called them out on their « Male Cow Poopoo ». It's completely soured fans and companies alike towards the US VAs as a whole, thus damaging the entire industry.

3. Yuri is expensive. He's a VA celebrity. He can beg all he likes, but when he's attached to a controversial company AND he's expensive af, well, why the hell would Atlus go this route when they can get out of country VA to do the job instead? It's better for business. The amount of people who'd refuse to buy the game because he's not in it VS the people who don't know/give a « Cow Poopoo » is nothing.

Also, he's definitely not reprising that role after potentially leaking a game. What an incredibly idiotic thing to do.

I see thanks for explaining the situation of the USA VA Industry... This explains why there were VAs from the UK on Metaphor : ReFantazio like Joseph Tweedale who played Louis in that Game... Guess Atlus doesn't wanna deal with all this SAG Stuff from the US...

Do you think this is the Reason why most of the English VAs for P3R did not reprise their Roles?

[Bluie]

It's probably the reason, yes. I'm not at all against unions, but the absolute shitshow that SAG has become is turning companies away from those needing work rather than encouraging them to be sought out. The 'strike' only exists in the US, and while it started out as advocating for AI protections, it's devolved into mudslinging and VAs actively trying to leave SAG as they can't get any work while under them. It's 100% easier to just contract other English speaking VAs from out of country than even trying to navigate all the red tape of the union-cult that is SAG.

And put one in for Erin being stupid here too. Are she and Yuri on a speedrun to get blacklisted? Because I'll bet Yuri was forced to take that post down by multiple sources.

[Kikki]

Those two posts come across as extremely manipulative. I knew Yuri Lowenthal's name, before...he's my favourite of the voices for the hero in XCX...but I know nothing about him. Well, now I don't like him. And this Erin, too. They're trying to make themselves look like victims and the dev like a villain, playing on the fact that people like to virtue signal by throwing their weight behind a VA against a company, generally without even knowing the circumstances, because individuals = good and company = bad. Well, I hate Atlus, so they ARE villains, as far as I'm concerned...but not for this.

This is yucky. It came across yucky even before I knew about SAG (which I didn't until now.)

[venus14!]

Ok they are doing it intentionally now...

Yosuke's VA, Chie's VA and now Yukiko's VA all have done it in order that their Characters joined the Team...

My Prediction will be that after Kanji, Rise, Teddie and Naoto's VA they will be revealing the P4 Remake Officially...

They must be coordinating this with each other under Request from Atlus...

It's probably the reason, yes. I'm not at all against unions, but the absolute shitshow that SAG has become is turning companies away from those needing work rather than encouraging them to be sought out. The 'strike' only exists in the US, and while it started out as advocating for AI protections, it's devolved into mudslinging and VAs actively trying to leave SAG as they can't get any work while under them. It's 100% easier to just contract other English speaking VAs from out of country than even trying to navigate all the red tape of the union-cult that is SAG.

And put one in for Erin being stupid here too. Are she and Yuri on a speedrun to get blacklisted? Because I'll bet Yuri was forced to take that post down by multiple sources.

Nah they are probably just coordinating under Request from Atlus...

Many of the Old P3 VAs returned for P3R by the way... Just not as Main Characters... Yuri Lowenthal ( who previously played the MC, Pharos, Ryoji and

Spoiler:

Nyx Avatar

) got to play Yukari's Dad instead for example... Akihiko's Old VA got to play the Officer that helps SEES etc...

I wonder if the SAG allows for their VAs to play Minor Roles without complications?

Those two posts come across as extremely manipulative. I knew Yuri Lowenthal's name, before...he's my favourite of the voices for the hero in XCX...but I know nothing about him. Well, now I don't like him. And this Erin, too. They're trying to make themselves look like victims and the dev like a villain, playing on the fact that people like to virtue signal by throwing their weight behind a VA against a company, generally without even knowing the circumstances, because individuals = good and company = bad. Well, I hate Atlus, so they ARE villains, as far as I'm concerned...but not for this.

This is yucky. It came across yucky even before I knew about SAG (which I didn't until now.)

For... Lack of FeMC? :3

[Bluie]

That's... highly unlikely. I'm not going to completely discount your theory of the VA's doing a switcheroo and being like "I'm playing THIS character instead!" when/if the remake gets announced. The Persona 3 returns are not something I have a lot of knowledge of, but if they were (mostly) cast into minor roles, it was probably a budget thing, becuase again, those VA are like celebs and don't come cheap.

Back to these tweets though, it's like Kiki said; manipulation. One thing I think you’re misunderstanding is that these striking VAs have become vindictive and taken on a very 'woe is me' mindset which has many of their fellow (non union) VA tired of their « Cow Poopoo » and fans raging. And don't get me wrong, I don't want VAs to get replaced by AI without their consent (what the strike is originally for), but this 'with us or against us' bull has got to stop.

These VAs are « Cow Poopoo »-stirring, trying to rally their fans into pressuring Atlus into getting them recast. It's not going to work. While their Bluesky's are full of support, elsewhere, they're getting grilled for this, because it's a tantrum. THEY chose not to work, THEY attached themselves to a seedy, greedy company, THEY are ruining work for all US based VAs. There comes a point where you just need to quit, but no, SAG has refused every offer to end this debacle and the 'picket line' remains, much to many people annoyance; even those in SAG.

For example; Venti's English VA (Erika Harlacher) in Genshin Impact got so fed up with SAG, who was withholding work from her and THREATENING her for wanting to voice her character again in an upcoming story event in-game, she cold turkey'd the strike all together, left SAG, and is now gainfully employed again.

I say all this to point out that the likelihood of this being a publicity stunt is very low, especially with Chie's VA obviously still being on strike via her Bluesky username AND with the previous post being deleted. They're just being « Mr.Gourmet's shoes ». If they want to reprise roles so bad, they need to read the room and get over themselves, or settle into SAG's cult and pray.

[Kikki]

Ok they are doing it intentionally now...

They were always doing it intentionally.

I bet their guild (are those three all under this SAG thing?) may have put them up to it, unless they're just jerks all of their own accord. They're trying to egg their fans on to mobbing Atlus on their behalf, painting themselves as poor little victims who were sadly left out when they oh so wanted not to be left out, poor little Cinderellas we all are. Go be our white knights, fans who support us mindlessly! This is about control.

YUCK. I wonder if anyone even asked them about this. "To all those asking". Before the game was even known? There was probably no one asking at all, at this point, or maybe about two people. "All those asking" makes it sound like they're just responding to the voices of a crowd. Peh.

I don't like them.

For... Lack of FeMC? :3

We've talked twice about why I hate Atlus, and I don't want to do it again. Suffice it to say that it has nothing to do with a female MC for P3 since I don't give a hoot about that game. Sure, they should be more open to a female MC, particularly one that already existed, but they're a cruddy company in so many ways, it's no surprise that they're not.