Ugh! No!!

[skye's girl]

im confused from what Xirilia just said ow head hurts

[Moonbeam]

im confused from what u just said ow head hurts

Shut up, you moron.I was being serouis.You're too immature.No wonder you're spamming and double posting.

Better?

[Guest]

momofanautistic - you missed my point entirely, and the whole point of it was to try to help you and your cause

ever heard of the phrase 'you attract more flys with honey then vinager' how do you expect people to tolerate and show compassion when you dont show it to them first, dont you think they'd be able to feel more if they weren't thrown on the defense, all you're doing is pushing the wall further and further up with your own hate

i never said alot of things you imply in your message but one i'd really like to say is i didnt say 'be more tolerant' i said 'be more proactive and do it in a manner that will do some real good' (if someone were trying to make a point to you and called you a fool and questioned your intelligence, morals and such like that what would you do? you'd try to defend yourself weither the other person is right or wrong and you would probably shut a good portion of your listening off and/or try to get out of the situation altogether) just because you're right does not give you any right to put others down

fishie if you would like to continue this inappropriate conversation please get an account so we can talk over pm, with this post i just had to make my previous one clear so you didn't get the wrong idea of what i was saying

No, I actually didn't miss the point of your topic. I get you are trying to make me feel bad for saying what I did. I don't. I'm not here to conform people to my way of thinking, I'm being an advocate for my child. I think you are missing my point. Also, I'm not "closing walls down with my own hate" I never said I hated ANYONE. I said they were a fool, close-minded, lacked compassion and tolerance. HOWVER, the PP DID say they HATED innocent people.

You have also told me in your posts that I need to respect a person who attacked a group of people who for the most part can't defend themselves. you should listen to what a poster has said. We face accusations everyday of our lives. Most of us are sick of it. My post wasn't inappropriate. I'd say continuing to insult me in your posts are bordering on insulting as well.

Suffice to say, I'm not going to stand by and have someone tell me they hate my child. When someone says, I hate autistic people, thats attacking MY child, to say nothing of the other innocent people out there. They are innocent, while someone who is able to get on a computer and spew out about hating a group of people IS hatred and it IS intolerance. Continue to defend all you want, but again, I'm not going to sit by and take it. You want hatred? Listen to someone say, I hate autistics.

It's prejudice, pure and simple. Also, if you would like to continue this conversation, I'd be happy to, however, I'm on a laptop and not on my regular computer, I can't register. if you'd give me your email I can create a temp email account. However, I don't have anything against you. I'm not going to in any way recant what I've said. Period.

[skye's girl]

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my head hurts i dont like big words worst enough im in school

[momtoanautistic]

I will recant one thing I said, I don't see you as insulting me, and for that I apologize. however, anything else, I'm not recanting, and I'll step down from my soapbox and move on to read the rest of this site. I love how informative everything is, I've learned quite a bit these past few days.

[Moonbeam]

momofanautistic - you missed my point entirely, and the whole point of it was to try to help you and your cause

ever heard of the phrase 'you attract more flys with honey then vinager' how do you expect people to tolerate and show compassion when you dont show it to them first, dont you think they'd be able to feel more if they weren't thrown on the defense, all you're doing is pushing the wall further and further up with your own hate

i never said alot of things you imply in your message but one i'd really like to say is i didnt say 'be more tolerant' i said 'be more proactive and do it in a manner that will do some real good' (if someone were trying to make a point to you and called you a fool and questioned your intelligence, morals and such like that what would you do? you'd try to defend yourself weither the other person is right or wrong and you would probably shut a good portion of your listening off and/or try to get out of the situation altogether) just because you're right does not give you any right to put others down

fishie if you would like to continue this inappropriate conversation please get an account so we can talk over pm, with this post i just had to make my previous one clear so you didn't get the wrong idea of what i was saying

No, I actually didn't miss the point of your topic. I get you are trying to make me feel bad for saying what I did. I don't. I'm not here to conform people to my way of thinking, I'm being an advocate for my child. I think you are missing my point. Also, I'm not "closing walls down with my own hate" I never said I hated ANYONE. I said they were a fool, close-minded, lacked compassion and tolerance. HOWVER, the PP DID say they HATED innocent people.

You have also told me in your posts that I need to respect a person who attacked a group of people who for the most part can't defend themselves. you should listen to what a poster has said. We face accusations everyday of our lives. Most of us are sick of it. My post wasn't inappropriate. I'd say continuing to insult me in your posts are bordering on insulting as well.

Suffice to say, I'm not going to stand by and have someone tell me they hate my child. When someone says, I hate autistic people, thats attacking MY child, to say nothing of the other innocent people out there. They are innocent, while someone who is able to get on a computer and spew out about hating a group of people IS hatred and it IS intolerance. Continue to defend all you want, but again, I'm not going to sit by and take it. You want hatred? Listen to someone say, I hate autistics.

It's prejudice, pure and simple. Also, if you would like to continue this conversation, I'd be happy to, however, I'm on a laptop and not on my regular computer, I can't register. if you'd give me your email I can create a temp email account. However, I don't have anything against you. I'm not going to in any way recant what I've said. Period.

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Please, people, let's all just shut the hell up!

Tell me, is this a Forum for Harvest Moon?Yes.Is it a Forum for discussing about autistic people?No.Should we be talking about autistic people?No.

Somehow, this topic developed into a person, who unfortunately lost his/her game, into a disscusion/argument about autistic people.Now, like said, you want a fight with someone?PM them.Simple as that.(Unless your a Fishie)

Now, please let's get back on topic.

[skye's girl]

ok but what i dont get is why didnt the chick who made this post lock her game in a drawer or put it where she couldnt get it

[Xirilia]

I will recant one thing I said, I don't see you as insulting me, and for that I apologize. however, anything else, I'm not recanting, and I'll step down from my soapbox and move on to read the rest of this site. I love how informative everything is, I've learned quite a bit these past few days.

like i said you want to continue the conversation get an account and pm me, otherwise i'm not going to read your other post

[FairyFairuza]

My little sister can steal things too. i__i
But seriously, you should be able to get it back. I really hope you can. One suggestion: hide your DS!

PS three words. OFF TOPIC, PEOPLES!

[Sayoko_Ray]

oh i'm sorry to hear that. I restarted mine yesterday i was so mad! i was pretty far in it 2...

[candy_lover_99]

omg thats horrible, i have been around autistic kids before, and I'm sorry but i absouluty hate them, and i'm sorry but to me they are the worst. Besides the kid i was around was a total jerk, too. Bleh, but i hope you at least get a new game, if it will make you feel any better.

As the mother of an autistic child, I have to tell you I'm horrified and appalled at your total ignorance.

It makes me wonder: my son rides the short bus, but your total lack of compassion, intelligence, and understanding makes me think that perhaps the school district got it wrong.

I also wonder at the intelligence of your parents raising such a fool.

I can go on and tell you many more things, but I'd be wasting my breath. Bottom line here, is, before you shoot off your mouth think about what you say. Thank you.

I'd like to say the same for you. Attacking someone like that is not ok either. You can't really help how you feel on certain issue especially when that's your only experience to it. I'm sure there are issues you know nothing about but have an opinion on as well. Now there's nothing wrong on trying to express your side but I found this post to be rather on the offensive and attacking. I wonder how you were before you had your autistic kid. Don't you think you have a different and more understanding then someone who's just seen a kid who happens to be autistic and happens to be a naughty kid.

I have great respect for those who work with autistic kids because that's a level of patience I don't know that I could achieve on a regular basis. And I have even more respect for those who treat them as though their real people inside and actually sit down with them and try to show them right and wrong, but the fact is there's alot of parents (usually the ones you'll run into) who think that autistic kids are not kids and should be let to get whatever they want and really does the kid more harm and further separates them from everyone else because they dont learn the social skills they need because of it and dont learn right and wrong

now there are tons of normal kids as well that just get their way and know how to work their parents and what not but when an autistic kid does it and that number being less of what you run into you might get the idea that autistic kids are all like that, instead of the real truth that deep down there are good kids and bad kids or good moments and bad moments (just as there are for everyone)

but calling someone a fool and insulting their parents and insulting their intelligence and morals is not teaching tolerance it's just showing a greater divide

teach instead of attack, i understand that you're a mother and you see that as an attack on your baby and you have to defend that and tahts a great thing but doing it in a better manner will help everybody including you and your son

i will say no more on the issue because this is harvest moon boards not a place for subjects of this sort of matter but i just had to say that attacking people is not going to help and definitely has no place on the board even less then talking about such a thing would go

Sorry Xirila, but I'm going to continue to stick to what I said. My son is severely autistic and he's not a brat, he's severe. It sickens me to see the level of ignorance. It's up to the parents to teach a child more tolerance, and obviously, there was no tolerance in this case. They raised a fool.

I respect you trying to tell me as a mom I should be "more tolerant." No, I shouldn't be, not when I'm defending an entire group of people who will eventually take over an entire generation. There is a wide range of people on the autistic spectrum. They are NOT brats. They simply canNOT help themselves with their OCD, which is a trait that shows up in nearly every autistic person.

Now, in real life, I am an autistic advocate, and I speak on behalf of everyone on the spectrum. I'm not going to sit by quietly and watch someone attack a group of people who are loving, intelligent, and above all, driven. You are right, this IS a board for HMDS, and I love the game. It never should have been brought up in the first place. I stand by what I said though, because half of them can't even defend themselves.

Also, asking me a question about how I was before is a bit amusing. I'm sure you are a great person- obviously, you would have to be to find something positive about a person attacking a person who can't defend themselves. However, how I was before isn't the issue. The issue here, is what I've stated.

I myself will stop talking about this, however, I felt I had to address the issues you raised.

Mark my words. More and more people are being born on the spectrum as we draw a breath. They will most likely take over an entire generation. It's time people started showing more compassion and understanding towards them.

I agree. Anyone who says that autistic people are brats, or mean, or whatever are wrong. They're just regular people, trying to live life. It isn't their fault that they have special needs. I believe people should have far more respect for them then they do. You don't walk down the street, see someone different from you and think, "weirdo." If you did that, you'd be calling everyone that.

Like I said before, it really isn't their fault, and they aren't so much different from us. All they need is a little extra help, that's all. It doesn't give us the right to mock them. They've been made special, just like everyone else.

Oh, and sorry I had to add on to the list of people who wanted to comment on this. It's just that the Fishie has no account so I can't PM her, and also I felt we needed to set this straight. Ok, please, if anyone wants to do this topic anymore go to the Back Fence or something.

[Getaris]

i want this to be the last feed to the troll with an autistic son around here.


i have a couisin like that, i dont really know him much because his parents hide him (ignorance)

i have heard hes pretty integillent and that he memorizes the books. my dad told me he once was looking at a image book, andhe asked "Whats this?" and my cousin said "Horse" and he wasnt even looking at it!

hes a bit violent too, but thats because he had bad luck. his parents were uninformed and they just keep him in a room. hes like 33 years old now so theres no way to change him.

[candy_lover_99]

Okay, now that Getaris has commented, please no more unless you go to the Back Fence or something. This forum is SUPPOSED to be about Harvest Moon, so, we should stop talking about that.

[Janequa22]

Six words:

Get a lock for your room.

[candy_lover_99]

Six words:

Get a lock for your room.

Yes, a bunch of people have already said that. So let's just end this! No more posts on this topic please!