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HM24/7 wrote:It's so hard to get them in IoH!!! Is this fixed in SSF?

coolcat10189 wrote:

HM24/7 wrote:It's so hard to get them in IoH!!! Is this fixed in SSF?

Nope. And I think it's harder in this system than it is in IoH.

HM24/7 wrote:

coolcat10189 wrote:

HM24/7 wrote:It's so hard to get them in IoH!!! Is this fixed in SSF?

Nope. And I think it's harder in this system than it is in IoH.

How is it harder?

The basic tools you start with (hammer, axe, hoe, sickle, and watering can) are only able to have 1 Wonderful Stone attached. If you want to attach more stones you will have to buy new tools from Gannon. Mirabelle sells the milker, sheers, and brush tools at her animal shop.

xozity wrote:

ninthwind wrote:Are you sure it works in this game? I've already used that method in IoH, but the site is saying that in this game you can't do that, which is why I haven't bothered at all.

ninthwind, i think you maybe miss some important information from the context, maybe?
Well, it may be just my luck to obtain 2 orange, 2 green, 1 blue and 1 indigo from Chen in 1st winter.


Here is my conclusion(since my japan translation is weak) for conditions that make Chen sell his SUTEKI stones.
I have tried for myself and the wiki provides useful information that could be linked.

1) Farm value are used to determine if the wonderful stone should be sell in winter. There are 6 types of them : Crop, Animal, Fish, Mine, Cooking and Other. Each action you take in game increase these values according to each types separately from each other.
Thus, I can say that there are 6 counters. When you brush your animal the points count toward Animal one. Make sense?

2) If last 2 digit of these value are identical, Chen will sell the SUTEKI with the color according to what types of value that share the same digits.

• 1] Purple - Crop/Mine
  2] Red - Crop/Other
  3] Blue - Animal/Other
  4] Green - Mine/Other
  5] Yellow - Fish/Other
  6] Orange - Cooking/Other
  7] Indigo - Cooking/Animal

For example, if Cooking point is 163,225 and Other point is 2,937,325. Which 2 last digit are 25, if you have these point before your bedtime. Tomorrow, Chen will sell Orange one

3) Decision for selling SUTEKI are made at the bed time! Therefore, to make Chen sell his SUTEKIs. You must change these values before you go to bed and check the following day. Unfortunately, these values are hidden. You have to save-load the game several times

The best way to go is :

• 1] save before bedtime (OH, before 12:00AM too but not confirmed)
  2] change values
  3] sleep
  4] check his store
  5] if he don't sell load and repeat step 2-5 again (until he sell or you give it up)

Sounds, similar?

Here are examples:
You want an orange one so you need to match up cooking/other values. The easiest way to change values is using tools. Using tools (Other +1) until your condition are met. Let's say that current value for cooking is 22 (consider only 2 last) and Other is 15. You need to use tools 7 times then sleep and enjoy the orange the following day. But you may end up with 6 times save-load the game just to get that one, how tough.
But if you aimed for Indigo one, you may find out that keep using tools won't pop it out of store. You need to change Animal or Cooking value instead.

I've tried once Chen sell me the orange SUTEKI, i loaded a save, use tools 100 times more and sleep. Chen still sells his orange but if it is not exactly 100 times, it is now unavailable, how cruel?

4) Like the wiki said, I can't force Chen to sell SUTEKI once I bought it from him. It takes me at least 3 days that I can confirm the method mention above

5) Don't forgot Chen holidays! As well as 10th that he always sell the chipped one

6) OK, before you give a try. I just wanna warn you it can be worst case of 98 times save-load


Comment and discussion are welcomed!
But if you gonna offense me, give it a try at least once

Thanks

DinoMax wrote:To get it, u need to do this:

xozity wrote:

ninthwind wrote:Are you sure it works in this game? I've already used that method in IoH, but the site is saying that in this game you can't do that, which is why I haven't bothered at all.

ninthwind, i think you maybe miss some important information from the context, maybe?
Well, it may be just my luck to obtain 2 orange, 2 green, 1 blue and 1 indigo from Chen in 1st winter.


Here is my conclusion(since my japan translation is weak) for conditions that make Chen sell his SUTEKI stones.
I have tried for myself and the wiki provides useful information that could be linked.

1) Farm value are used to determine if the wonderful stone should be sell in winter. There are 6 types of them : Crop, Animal, Fish, Mine, Cooking and Other. Each action you take in game increase these values according to each types separately from each other.
Thus, I can say that there are 6 counters. When you brush your animal the points count toward Animal one. Make sense?

2) If last 2 digit of these value are identical, Chen will sell the SUTEKI with the color according to what types of value that share the same digits.

• 1] Purple - Crop/Mine
  2] Red - Crop/Other
  3] Blue - Animal/Other
  4] Green - Mine/Other
  5] Yellow - Fish/Other
  6] Orange - Cooking/Other
  7] Indigo - Cooking/Animal

For example, if Cooking point is 163,225 and Other point is 2,937,325. Which 2 last digit are 25, if you have these point before your bedtime. Tomorrow, Chen will sell Orange one

3) Decision for selling SUTEKI are made at the bed time! Therefore, to make Chen sell his SUTEKIs. You must change these values before you go to bed and check the following day. Unfortunately, these values are hidden. You have to save-load the game several times

The best way to go is :

• 1] save before bedtime (OH, before 12:00AM too but not confirmed)
  2] change values
  3] sleep
  4] check his store
  5] if he don't sell load and repeat step 2-5 again (until he sell or you give it up)

Sounds, similar?

Here are examples:
You want an orange one so you need to match up cooking/other values. The easiest way to change values is using tools. Using tools (Other +1) until your condition are met. Let's say that current value for cooking is 22 (consider only 2 last) and Other is 15. You need to use tools 7 times then sleep and enjoy the orange the following day. But you may end up with 6 times save-load the game just to get that one, how tough.
But if you aimed for Indigo one, you may find out that keep using tools won't pop it out of store. You need to change Animal or Cooking value instead.

I've tried once Chen sell me the orange SUTEKI, i loaded a save, use tools 100 times more and sleep. Chen still sells his orange but if it is not exactly 100 times, it is now unavailable, how cruel?

4) Like the wiki said, I can't force Chen to sell SUTEKI once I bought it from him. It takes me at least 3 days that I can confirm the method mention above

5) Don't forgot Chen holidays! As well as 10th that he always sell the chipped one

6) OK, before you give a try. I just wanna warn you it can be worst case of 98 times save-load


Comment and discussion are welcomed!
But if you gonna offense me, give it a try at least once

Thanks

DSync wrote:The value seems to reset after I bought, say Green wonderful from Chen. So that means I can't get the same wonderful after 3 days from Chen (even though I didn't use my tool or mining)

princesszelda wrote:You could always buy an AR if it's too hard for ya.