Ushi No Tane Forum

xuriel wrote:I'm slightly confused because I haven't read any of the background materials and I've only listened to the Drama CD but in the Drama CD it REALLY REALLY seems like Ellis and Ellis are twins, I mean White Ellis gets sick and Black Ellis disguises herself as White Ellis and goes out to do White Ellis's business instead of White Ellis, while White Ellis stays at home to rest and Raguna finds White Ellis at home. So if its multiple personalities how can Ellis be at two places at the same time and why would Black Ellis TALK to White Ellis in the first place? Also apparently White Ellis is craptastic with directions while Black Ellis is good with them.

And apparently they physically look different enough to warrant a Big Hat to cover Black Ellis's hair and eyes while in White Ellis disguise...

Well let's go back to the drama thingy I said earlier :D

It's supposed to be like she changes into the other Elis when she channels spirits or something, I forget.

But it could be a secret that they are actually two seperate people. I'm still making a theory of it. But I'd prefer multiple personalities to twins...

...OH NO WAIT...I don't know. I like twins too.

Ah well. Black Elis is my favorite of the two. Uzuki, Black Elis, Bianca, Juni and Mist FTW!!

Messiah 9 wrote:

xuriel wrote:I'm slightly confused because I haven't read any of the background materials and I've only listened to the Drama CD but in the Drama CD it REALLY REALLY seems like Ellis and Ellis are twins, I mean White Ellis gets sick and Black Ellis disguises herself as White Ellis and goes out to do White Ellis's business instead of White Ellis, while White Ellis stays at home to rest and Raguna finds White Ellis at home. So if its multiple personalities how can Ellis be at two places at the same time and why would Black Ellis TALK to White Ellis in the first place? Also apparently White Ellis is craptastic with directions while Black Ellis is good with them.

And apparently they physically look different enough to warrant a Big Hat to cover Black Ellis's hair and eyes while in White Ellis disguise...

Well let's go back to the drama thingy I said earlier :D

It's supposed to be like she changes into the other Elis when she channels spirits or something, I forget.

But it could be a secret that they are actually two seperate people. I'm still making a theory of it. But I'd prefer multiple personalities to twins...

...OH NO WAIT...I don't know. I like twins too.

Ah well. Black Elis is my favorite of the two. Uzuki, Black Elis, Bianca, Juni and Mist FTW!!

I've been wondering if they are twins too, since apparently we have to choose an Ellis? Well that's what everyone is doing anyway. I mean on the RFF post they are Ellis & Ellis, you know? Not just Ellis.

But even if they are the same person, it could be like... Two bodies but one person. Like the spirits were so different that the body split into two seperate things.

But I think on the website it says it's a girl with split personalities.

Finally, often drama CDs are entirely fantasy, goofy, Alternate Universe, and sometimes even Out of Character.

True that, though most of Rune Factory's Drama CDs have stayed true to the actual stories of the game.

Well maybe I'll read Ellis and Ellis's descriptions in all the various sites and see.

EDIT: Well I have read, re-read and consulted with friends and it seems Elis is indeed a multiple personality case (I would say we're about 90% sure, still room for twins). White Elis by Day, Black Elis during the Night. I hope that helps a little.

I'm still favouring Black Elis over White Elis anyway so not too much of a problem for me.

xuriel wrote: White Elis by Day, Black Elis during the Night. I hope that helps a little.

What??..It's night in the Intro and It's The White...And don't think you should totally believe what The Site has wrote...They may want to save the Surprise for later, therefore, they only wrote The Ellis Summary based on what people may think of her at first...

Meh I really can't worry about it that much... I'll just play and find out in the holidays. I was merely referring to my understanding of the summary, I DID say I was 90% sure. Means there is a 10% chance Marvelous is being an arsehole and left Elis as a suprise.

Also I believe Black Elis appears in the game after White Elis appears anyway so as far as time of day is concerned White Elis can appear anytime in the game before Black Elis is unlocked.

xuriel wrote:Meh I really can't worry about it that much... I'll just play and find out in the holidays. I was merely referring to my understanding of the summary, I DID say I was 90% sure. Means there is a 10% chance Marvelous is being an arsehole and left Elis as a suprise.

Also I believe Black Elis appears in the game after White Elis appears anyway so as far as time of day is concerned White Elis can appear anytime in the game before Black Elis is unlocked.

AubergineBianca wrote:
You'll see black Elis in the 4th dungeon (Snow Grass Ruin) and what'll happen there will be spoiler so i won't say

But i don't know yet what'll happen after this though, cause i'm still in early spring
i dunno if you can interact with her direct as different Elis or you need to do something else first before (like, clear the game?)
Wiki also doesn't mention if both elis stay in the different places, cause it only mentions that She (don't mention which one) lives in Munabile (White Elis' place)

Like I said...don't take those sites seriously..Especially wiki coz It's the users themselves that wrote it....And I believe maybe... Those users we're talking about doesn't knew about the game as much as you guys...

Bluie wrote:But i don't know yet what'll happen after this though, cause i'm still in early spring
i dunno if you can interact with her direct as different Elis or you need to do something else first before (like, clear the game?)
Wiki also doesn't mention if both elis stay in the different places, cause it only mentions that She (don't mention which one) lives in Munabile (White Elis' place)

lol yeah I'm in early spring too, one thing I find crazy is the fact you can buy a pack of Turnip seeds for 10G which grows into 9 turnips which sell for 210G each... the profit is.... yeah.

And I agree that somethings may be different, some people posted that Uzuki appears AFTER Rosetta's store opens. Uzuki appeared in my game before the store opened. (I love the animation scene for Uzuki :3)

Shin-Ragna wrote:Like I said...don't take those sites seriously..Especially wiki coz It's the users themselves that wrote it....And I believe maybe... Those users we're talking about doesn't knew about the game as much as you guys...

you don't go and fill a wiki with stuff you believe. if someone does, and he can't prove it or other people can disprove it, it's taken out. maybe you should go and read what a wiki is all about?

Byronna wrote:

Shin-Ragna wrote:Like I said...don't take those sites seriously..Especially wiki coz It's the users themselves that wrote it....And I believe maybe... Those users we're talking about doesn't knew about the game as much as you guys...

you don't go and fill a wiki with stuff you believe. if someone does, and he can't prove it or other people can disprove it, it's taken out. maybe you should go and read what a wiki is all about?

yeah I know...But this matter hasn't been proved yet, so people wrote whatever they think....I also have seen wiki got edited many times myself...

xuriel wrote: lol yeah I'm in early spring too, one thing I find crazy is the fact you can buy a pack of Turnip seeds for 10G which grows into 9 turnips which sell for 210G each... the profit is.... yeah.

Haha, oh no! That profit system sounds totally unbalanced... the only way I could imagine that balancing out is if Raguna has... no, wait, Rp... never mind... that's insane. Maybe the upgrades are ridiculously high or- um... hmmmm. No, just sounds unbalanced. In our favor, of course.

well, house upgrades are indeed quite pricey, and there are a lot of them compare with RF and RF2, not to mention each kitchen and forgery upgrade plus utensils
also you still need to upgrade your monster hut, forging room, kitchen, and pharmacy room (and each of them except animal hut has 3 designs, which are very neat, both inside and outside appearance)

and i don't think Elis is twin, cause if theyre some sort of separated twins, why only one can stay?
And since white elis can't stand sunlight (dunno about black), it's kinda impossible to see her walk around as white daylight, and black at night (but i've thought about this before), i tried to meet her at day and she sleeps
but there's a big bed in her (white) house, so they could be one first, and then 2 after you meet black (and both are active at night, perhaps?) and then 1 again, if you make both love you

Btw, this is spoiler:
As usual, I'm in my routine to deliver tomato juice (free from Roland, hehe, don't miss it. She loves it a lot, 3 juices=1FP/LP) for Elis and then i meet this guy which i never have seen before, either read about him somewhere
spoiler1
spoiler2

after that Elis tells me a bit about him
that his name is.....uhh...Jelbain? i can't romanize it, it's ジェルバイン in kana and he's her friend who's interesting to talk with
He went into a locked door at the deeper part of Munabile and after this event, i can enter that area
I tried to follow him, only to get pwned together with my wolf, thanks « Harvest Goddess » i managed to teleport before i died xD
he seems only to be appear in storyline event though, like whatshisname again in RF (Lynette's boss), which is too bad cause i want him
But maybe He could also this Whale Island spirit (materialization form)

ジェルパイン , yes..It's romanized as Jerpain...Anyway Sylve, Any Sign of Rival Marriage??

Shin-Ragna wrote:ジェルパイン , yes..It's romanized as Jerpain...Anyway Sylve, Any Sign of Rival Marriage??

no sign at all, except some crush-like dialog like in RF
beside, well....can't really say this as proof for no rival marriage,
there is only one small bed in every guys house, so if they marry someone (and have child), there should be not enough room

but there are some random events (plus small events in bath house and shipping time)now instead of intro events for each household like in RF, although so far i've only encountered 2: Danny VS Rosetta and other with Cross who wants me to pick up his nails since he's on the roof but Ragna cant find it cause theyre in in his pocket xD

Doesn't have to be event..It can be something like Ray who's directly shows his interest like Rosalind, or Like Jake that Blatantly told us to stay away from Ceci....